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 No.1054[Reply][D]

I'll go into these psyops in chronological order. But to make a long story short, no one died, and no flights were shot down or bombed. I make my presumptions based on the usual funny stories being peddled in these psyops and their suspicious numerologies. When these things happen over and over and over again, you're being fed bullshit. Granted, this isn't rock hard proof of fakery, but it strongly points into that direction.

I think it would also be interesting to learn what Korean netizens would make of these revelations.

Korean Air Lines Flight 007, per the official story (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007), was a routine scheduled flight from New York City to Seoul with a refueling stopover in Anchorage, Alaska. The flight was via a Boeing 747-200, aged 11 years (11 is a commonly recurring number in psyops). The flight departed on 31 August 1983 from JFK and arrived in Anchorage uneventfully. It is when the flight continued on its ANC-Seoul leg that things went awry. The flight strayed from its course and crossed over into Soviet territory. The Soviets, thinking the plane was an American spy plane, shot down Flight 007 in the early dark hours of 1 September some distance away from Sakhalin Island, killing all 269 on board.

Already something funny right away is the flight number, 007. KAL 007 was accused of being a spy plane, and you know where else 007 has a spy theme? Fictional MI6 agent James Bond, "007". So this flight number is referencing a work of fiction. Should we then presume KAL 007 is as equally fictitious? And why Flight 007 and not just Flight 7 like pretty much every other airline does it?

Another oddity is that despite being a Korean airliner bound for Seoul, only 76 of the supposed passengers were Korean nationals, another 29 Koreans being KAL employees. 62 of the passengers were American, despite Korea not being such a popular destination for Westerners prior to the 21st century (in 1983, South Korea was under a military dictatorship and was by and large still a developing country, which also makes it an odd choice to be awarded the 1988 Summer Olympics in 1981).

Among the Americans was Senator Larry McDonald (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald), an ultraconservative DPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1787[D][DF]

>>1186
timOthY mcVEIGH
Coincidence (even if he's an agent with a pseudonym) or more jewish word games?
>>1188
And what about Thomas McVey, there the 'vey' even has the yiddish spelling!

 No.1788[D][DF]

>>1520
What's the point to signaling like this? Why don't they all just get in on a skype call?

 No.1789[D][DF]

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>>1787
>OY VEIGH


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 No.1102[Reply][D]

Often in the media, figures are fabricated or stolen for one-off uses, and events are simply made up, the motive typically to provide a pretext for a certain political action occurring. To give some obvious examples of events that are known to be fake (although these are not the only ones, these are the ones most likely to be fake):
>OK Corral shootout - although supposedly taking place on the 26th of October 1881, this event evidently wasn't even known about until 1931, and many images of the people involved in it are simply fabricated
>Gleiwitz incident and the various Polish-German border clashes - whether it was instigated by Naujocks or not, it was clearly faked to instigate the invasion of Poland, with no deaths on either side
>Columbine shootings - suspicious date (4/20 in US format), fake surveillance footage. The jewish shooter Dylan Dylan Klebold was even born on 9/11 1981.
>9/11 - pretty obvious, though it's in its own category, to keep it simple, there were no planes striking the WTC, and many of the main "victims" presented were in on the hoax and as are most "survivors". Al-Qaeda was a complete CIA/MI6/Mossad operation from top-to-down ("headed" by the CIA asset and Yemeni jew Osama bin Laden) that still assisted fighters in Bosnia and Chechnya a few years earlier. The 1993 WTC bombing was likely fake entirely, and it's also probable that the "Arab" celebrations of the attack were also instigated by undercover Mossad agents to legitimise the event and create more antagonism
>Sandy Hook - often called "Sandy Hooknose", virtually everything about the event is completely fabricated, the school itself (named Sandy Hook after a random Dutch settlement in NJ for some reason, despite being in Connecticut) was likely a complete ghost building, and there were no real emotional feelings among the parents; there's probably more "truthers" pushing misdirection about the shooting than there are people trying to debunk it, seeing as it's so obviously fake.
To add to the bit on Sandy Hook; "Sandy Hook" was referenced in the background in the Dark Knight Rises, the same movie where another fake shooting occurred in Aurora Colorado (giving it a Lincoln-assassination-like meta-narrative, since his assassination was initially thought of to be part of the play, same thing applies here) and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>1649

 No.1747[D][DF]

Another day, another nigger supposedly gunned down by police.
Nigger's name is "Jacob Blake" is that supposed to be like Jacob Black of Twilight faggotry? These psyop names are getting really fruity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXpxf9EKgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQp2M7X-tQ

 No.1748[D][DF]

>>1747
Fake and gay. Now to go on Twitter and wait for the marketing firms to tell us where and when to rally and what to write on our cardboard signs.


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 No.1667[Reply][D]

(copied from an 8kun post concerning deliberately bad conspiracy theories)

Unironically? That jews hate jesus. That jews are magically repelled by jesus. Like all of the most effective shill campaigns, there's truth to it, but it's skewed in a way that it looks convincing to the hopelessly delusional.

Here's the basis of it. Some jews do hate jesus, and they're the orthodox jews. The equivalent of the amish in Israel do, because that's part of the LARP - what crossposting christian posters accuse everyone they don't like of doing. These jews are called the Haredim. They represent approximately 12% of all jews in Israel, but their political power is such that every candidate has to pander to them if they want their votes.

But wait you might be thinking, explain the kikel backstory and the no cross signs on keyboards and in the classrooms? First you should take a second to realize that even taken as whole, that's not enough to rationalize the shill narrative. After that, Haredim at different intervals have immigrated to the US. This is such that the kikel story is such an isolated incident that even going by the christian crosspoter story, it should be at least at the level of muslims hating pork. It isn't. You now realize the kikel story is virtually the entire basis of that narrative and always the first thing that gets posted.

After that, the rest falls apart. Israeli keyboards do contain a plus sign. The reason why? Haredim like the Amish abstain from electronics. This means the JIDF have no upbringing that would make them subsconsiously wary of LARPing like a christian. The challenge in Israel with dealing with autistic LARPers is containing different sets of classroom material since like the Amish the Haredim have different curriculum. The Haredim utilize the tactic of uprooting themselves and going to a different part of a city or Israel to change political favor, so sign makers must change the signs' contents based on their movements or lose business.

If any of that seems inconsequential, it actually should. That was the entire basis of the above myth. Christian crossposters want to sell you on that story, that dismantling it seems underwhelming. But the story doesn't end there. There's a reason why I'm posting this here and not in its own thread.

It's a retarded narrative for a very big reason. Why is it that after 2016 there was a massive surge of christian posting? Why did they try toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1723[D][DF]

>>1722
>I'm not pushing the Esau gambit. I'm saying that I think there have been legitimate schisms that were not just an act.
That doesn't mean you weren't just pushing the Esau gambit, you could have easily have been referring to both.
>I never said "jews aren't jews." I made one tongue-in-cheek remark that Eastern European Jews aren't true Jews and that was mostly sarcasm.
So now your old argument is just a joke? What, now that you realised your whole argument was an appeal to ignorance?
>considering they are a minority group within the Semites and most Jews aren't Semitic at all.
>There are modern converts so would there have not been all along. You can't prove, anymore than disprove that the leaders of Jewish communities had any real claim to the legacy of Abraham.
Sure was tongue-in-cheek. If you were an honest gentile at this point, you would just admit you conceded instead of claiming you weren't wrong before. Jews don't like being corrected on things.
>What I am arguing is that Jews fight amongst themselves and have been fragmenting into smaller groups over time. Sure, they are guilty of cronyism regardless of sect. But that doesn't mean all their in0fighting is just for show.
And when the jews are not fighting each other (which is to say, just the typical "Judean People's Front" vs. "People's Front of Judea" type of bullcrap) they're united against the goyim, typically justifying the Esau gambit with actual rivalries. There's absolutely no split in rabbinic judaism that compares to the east-west schism of the church, or those of Islam.

 No.1724[D][DF]

>>1723
>So now your old argument is just a joke? What, now that you realised your whole argument was an appeal to ignorance?
My original argument was my point about them identifying as Semites, before the tangent. I never said jews aren't jews.
>considering they are a minority group within the Semites and most Jews aren't Semitic at all.
>There are modern converts so would there have not been all along. You can't prove, anymore than disprove that the leaders of Jewish communities had any real claim to the legacy of Abraham.
I still believe these things, except for my comment that "MOST jews aren't semites. That's what I conceded to you. Jews claim a contiguous lineage that they present no proof of. This claim to be descendants of Abraham is used in tandem with their claim to the right to control Israel.
>And when the jews are not fighting each other (which is to say, just the typical "Judean People's Front" vs. "People's Front of Judea" type of bullcrap) they're united against the goyim, typically justifying the Esau gambit with actual rivalries. There's absolutely no split in rabbinic judaism that compares to the east-west schism of the church, or those of Islam.
The so-called reformist movement, in which Ashkenazi Jews abandoned the sandhedrim in Vilna, I believe, is comparable to the schisms in Christianity. Modern reformist rabbis and Jewish history professors will describe the Orthodox rabbis of 300 years ago as "conservative" and "intolerant" and many of the things that they have made into synonyms for evil. First of all, if there is any true animosity within that divide, then it is an exploitable weakness regardless of a fundamental sense of unity vs. the Goyim. Second, I don't believe the unity is as universally solid as you say it is. For example, I don't think that all Jews who marry into Christian families are doing it as a trick. I don't think that all Jews who renounce Judaism are doing it as a trick.

 No.1725[D][DF]

>>1724
>My original argument was my point about them identifying as Semites, before the tangent. I never said jews aren't jews.
>I still believe these things, except for my comment that "MOST jews aren't semites. That's what I conceded to you.
Good to know that.
>Jews claim a contiguous lineage that they present no proof of. This claim to be descendants of Abraham is used in tandem with their claim to the right to control Israel.
That's just an appeal to ignorance fallacy. The entire ethnogenesis of jewry lays in Judah, that's just whom they are.
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The so-called reformist movement, in which Ashkenazi Jews abandoned the sandhedrim in Vilna, I believe, is comparable to the schisms in Christianity. Modern reformist rabbis and Jewish history professors will describe the Orthodox rabbis of 300 years ago as "conservative" and "intolerant" and many of the things that they have made into synonyms for evil.
And they still share their turns in trying to screw over goyim. One screws them over with the banner that they're secular and "the only democracy in the middle east" thus they must protect them among other rubbish, the other claims that they're the chosen people and that all believers must obey them and follow Noahidism. The east-west schism has nowhere near that level of unity.
>First of all, if there is any true animosity within that divide, then it is an exploitable weakness regardless of a fundamental sense of unity vs. the Goyim.
See my retort above; these divisions are not nearly as strong enough to actually D&C the jews.
>Second, I don't believe the unity is as universally solid as you say it is. For example, I don't think that all Jews who marry into Christian families are doing it as a trick. I don't think that all Jews who renounce Judaism are doing it as a trick.
"Not all", but how many jews are not doing those things just as a trick? How many genuine renegade jews are there?


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 No.112[Reply][D]

I think the fact James Mason is associated with satanism in anyway makes him wholly unlikeable.
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 No.1576[D][DF]

>>1575
>I don't know whom bumped this just and deleted their post,
No one did.

 No.1577[D][DF]

>>1576
You're right . So why did this year-old thread about James-Mason with only two replies suddenly get on the front page? It was literally on the front page before I ever posted anything on this thread.

 No.1580[D][DF]

>>1577
discordfag here, it shows that there were weird blank replies in this thread the other day


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 No.1578[Reply][D]

Is corporal punishment appropriate and in what amounts?

Should it be allowed in schools? for adults too? in prison?

 No.1579[D][DF]

>>1578
When talking about punishment, there are usually four justifications that come up:
>retribution, forcing the crook to repay the victim through money, labor, etc.
>deterrence, scaring any would-be crooks straight by setting an example
>rehabilitation, transforming a crook into a contributing member of society
>incapacitation, rendering the crook incapable of further wrongdoing
Corporal punishment has no retributive value, which is a big mark against it in my book.
In any form it is a great deterrent. But it doesn't really make the crooks see the crime as bad, just the punishment. In other words, they're only good so long as there's someone to crack the whip or so long as they're sure they'll get caught.
Rehab is pretty situational, the occasional spanking sets a child straight just fine so long as it's kept in moderation. On an adult it won't do much unless you pass the threshold where it become senselessly cruel.
Incapacitation in regards to corporal punishment is primitive. Sand-nigger tier, chopping off the thumbs of thieves and stuff. Incapacitation works better when talking about incarceration.

In schools it would be good IN THEORY but as we all know teachers can become real sadists. It becomes less of a disciplinary measure and more of a stress outlet. The oversight required to keep sadistic assholes in check makes it impractical in the current "superschool" system. Might be more justifiable in a small farm schoolhouse type deal, where all responsibility falls on the teacher instead of some amorphous bureaucracy.
For adults and in prisons I don't see much value, as said above it'd take a lot more than a few passes with a belt to set them straight. It'd be torture pure and simple, and that doesn't usually create functional citizens. Adult psychology is different from kid psychology.


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 No.1276[Reply][D]

Why is New Mexico so libertarian?

 No.1570[D][DF]

>>1276
Because New Mexico is based

 No.1571[D][DF]

Better question would be, why is Mississippi so cucked?
[spoiler]do you know what this graph is based on? Is it adjusted for population? How many were polled, were they of similar socioeconomic backround? Always label your axes.[/spoiler]


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 No.1328[Reply][D]

So I tried taking the LeftValues quiz as a National Socialist...
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 No.1561[D][DF]

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>>1550
if you're not going to say anything of value please don't post, you're not wanted here

>>1328
https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=23.5&b=48.5&c=38.3&d=23.2&e=34.6&f=55.6&g=50.0

honestly this seems almost accurate, if it wasn't socialist garbage

 No.1563[D][DF]

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>>1328
honestly I think any form of anything is doomed to fail humans fail at everything

 No.1569[D][DF]

>>1563
It doesn't matter what form government takes if the people are shit. Goodness spreads from one person.


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 No.1556[Reply][D]

Croesus to King Cyrus on how to deal with the rebellious Lydians:

>You could prevent them from being rebellious or a threat to you in the future by ordering the following steps: prohibit them from possessing weapons of war, order them to wear tunics under their cloaks and soft boots, instruct them to play the lyre and the harp, and tell them to educate their sons to be shopkeepers. If you do this, sire, you will soon see that they will become women instead of men and thus will then pose no danger or threat to you of any future rebellion."

This stood out to me in my recent read-through of Herodotus because of how on-the-nose it is compared with tactics of modern globalists. I knew this means of subjugation was as old as time, but it's strange to see it spelled out in such plain language.

Now I am interested in seeing more examples like this. I'm not looking for theories or even examples of this tactic in action. I want to see writers and (especially) political leaders describing this tactic deliberately enough that it can be paralleled with modern feminization tactics going on now. It could be useful to construct a timeline or essay of feminizing the men of a population and of the consequences, which I'm sure are always pacification and a crack-down on liberties.

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 No.1530[Reply][D]

Which foreign language is best worth my time learning? Is Duolingo a worthwhile tool, or is it ineffective? It was founded by the jew Luis von Ahn and pushes social engineering like CalArts style pictures of nonwhites and homosexual sentences, but it is free and one of the most widely used programs.
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 No.1547[D][DF]

esperanto lol

 No.1548[D][DF]

>>1546
>I don't get iranian though, why not learn arabic instead? It's far more common in Middle East and perhaps even North Africa.
Namely because it's more accessible to Indo-European-speakers, whereas Arabic is far harder to learn for a native Indo-European speaker, also at that, it's more scarcely spoken than Arabic is (though still largely distributed from Turkey to China, and still with a large literary history) making it far more "in-demand" so to speak. They're also similar to Sanskrit/Indo-Aryan languages, which are extremely important as well, so if you already know them it's an easy gateway to Iranian ones, and if you already know an Iranian one, it can help with learning Sanskrit; plus if you do want to learn Arabic, then learning an Iranian language too would probably help with that.
>That's pretty much the point of any language, but what information can you extract from the modern chinese sources? Should I learn chinese just so I can read how nothing happened on Tiananmen square? My point is that the chinese communist party makes most if not all information sources dubious and untrustworthy, so learning that specific language doesn't have much benefits.
Chinese isn't just spoken in the PRC, and besides, that's already the case for most English sources as well whenever talking about any "terrorist attack", "lone-wolf shooting", "disaster", etc.
There's a lot of information today locked up in Chinese; specifically a lot of information about Mao Zedong's family (I can't remember the exact source now, it was all in Chinese), which could be important.

 No.1552[D][DF]

>>1547
kek commie


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 No.1399[Reply][D]

With a recent attack on internet free speech following the coronavirus pandemic and massive corporate sponsored BLM protests, many people are speculating that 4chan will be shutdown in the coming weeks to months. Where will everybody go? How well known is this site? I would like this site to be at least semi active, at least half way of 8chan levels, but it would be a shame if redditors are to override this site.
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 No.1480[D][DF]

>>1479
The /cow/ board also functions as a forcefield for the owner, robi. You're supposed to believe that this "dolphinspammer" literally spent hundreds of dollars on creating fake imageboards just to discredit julay-world.

 No.1481[D][DF]

>>1479
>>1480
you have a point. i stayed away from the drama shit and visited whenever i got bored of everything else, so i never went there often.

 No.1483[D][DF]

>>1481
It was pretty much impossible to avoid it on political boards. In two separate instances, there was a raiding team of pedophiliac jews from /b/ constantly spamming cuck porn for an entire night on /n/ because /n/ DIDN'T want pedophilia on their board. They even made posts on 4chan's /pol/ about the thread because it bothered them so much:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241632396/
I've found that these shills all have an unhealthy obsession with anyone calling them out (trait 5 of the disinformationist, per The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies) and they typically post on 4chan, 8chan etc. as well, it's just that the administration on other boards are even more lax and approving of their degeneracy. I've suspected that some of them are even on 22, but the thing is that 22chan's rules doesn't approve of their mindset, so raiding it actually has somewhat of a consequence.


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 No.1319[Reply][D]

Has anyone noticed how while many faux-nationalist groups, both contemporary and historical (including the NSDAP itself with the Haavara agreement despite statements to the contrary in Mein Kampf, as well as Mussolini being a fervent Zionist) advocate the jews to all go back to Israel so they wouldn't have to deal with them in Europe, whereas Arab "anti-Zionists" all happen to consider the jews only invaders in the middle east, and only want to deport them to Europe (despite the fact that they're racially distinct from both Europeans and other Semites)?
Not enough people talk about the Esau gambit, and even less people really choose to extend it to known false dialectics like national socialism and fascism, let alone zionism. This idea of jewish thesis (Zionism) vs. jewish "antithesis" (international jewry) is forced so much and opposed in such a clown-like manner (by national-socialists or other shills pretending to be white nationalists, as well as false "truthers" like Miles Mathis and the lot) that it effectively functions as a jewish ouroboros. If you're an intellectual and don't want to be chased by the organised jewish mafia, you either have to be a gerrymander for Zionism or you have to be a gerrymander for international jewry. However, I don't believe this is an attempt to keep up the current left-right dialectic (since it already has been run to the ground), it's an attempt to divide anti-Zionists from Europe and the Arab world for making a difference, by crippling opposition to both racial jewry as a whole and of Zionism.
They'll push Putin as some "saviour of Syria" despite the fact that not only is he in cahoots with Netanyahu, but also with a massive jewish oligarchy in Russia itself. Assad will never actually attack Israel despite the fact that it's right across the border and holds Syrian land (which is a point of discussion in-itself, Assad's father was likely put in charge of Syria by Israeli spooks as a double-agent, so that they could "win" the 6-days-war). A similar situation in the Levant to that of the west is among the Lebanese Maronites, who supposedly admire fascism (the name of their party "Kataeb" literally means "Phalange"), and are extremely servile to Israel, even helping them occupy southern Lebanon before they were stabbed in the back.
An even more nonsensical situation is Libya, divided between the UN-recognised government, the "Government of National Accords", and the Haftar clique. Apparently Turkey supportsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1326[D][DF]

>Haftar
Wonder if it's another in-your-face jewish pun?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haftarah
>means "parting" or "taking leave" in hebrew

 No.1467[D][DF]

>>1326
Really in your face, a "general taking leave", means that he isn't really there. That would perfectly summarize a Mossad-run cesspool of a conflict.


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 No.1373[Reply][D]

How much longer until it becomes legal to enslave White people in America?

https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/06/its-never-been-about-fairness/
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 No.1457[D][DF]

>>1454
>Don't you hate it when people discard your ideas saying stuff like "anybody against affirmative action is racist"? So please don't do it yourself
I haven't discarded your opinion. I've experienced the direct consequences of this opinion, starved through one 8-month period of unemployment and on 12-month period of unemployment. In that time, I've had plenty opportunity to mull over that opinion and assess it as ignorant garbage with confidence.
See above my comment that, when you are privileged, it is easy to wave away discrimination against white men.

 No.1459[D][DF]

>>1455
Oh I see
>>1456
>fact that tech remains largely male despite the hiring advantage that women have now should be enough to make most reasonable people see that "closing the gender gap" is a flailing, sexist initiative
I don't think it's supposed to have a big immediate effect
Anyway I think you might have a point. However I feel like we should look at specific examples at this point
I agree that something based on these principles can be abused, and I'm sorry that it has affected you
>>1457
I'm a white man and the only affirmative action I've seen in my life was a team math olympics girls only competition (in addition to the mixed one) and I've heard of girls only cs-related conferences
I personally saw it as an attempt to bring more girls in the field and nothing else. It didn't give girls in the field "power to harshly discriminate with impunity"
But I don't exclude that could happen. However it's unfair to say that it's always like that
I don't know maybe in my country it's not as bad, or maybe I just haven't seen much yet

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>>1459
Without doing searches for hours on google, the only examples I can give would have to be anecdotal. This is about 8 years ago now. But I can tell you television in the bigger American cities is broken into three industries: pre-production, production, and post-production.

Pre-production, obviously, is where all the money moves. It involves organization of both the production (actual on-location or in-studio filming) and post (editing and distribution). Pre-production is handled by "pre-production" houses, which are primarily staffed by females and openly brag about this fact. The production process is put together entirely with freelance work, but this is where all the skill is involved, so it is mostly male. Post is the only industry where you see an even mix of male and female.

Now, within pre-production, there is a serious problem of producers deliberately only hiring women in order to "make a difference" as they put it. They hire women straight out of school with generic communications degrees even when men with actual practical experience are applying. Below the producers (who act as managers) are what they call "associate producers" who are meant to go on location and oversee the actual production process. Yet (and this is not an exaggeration) they are so utterly incompetent that they have begun hiring freelance "production managers" to do their jobs for them as they play on facebook on their macbooks throughout the entire process.

In case you were wondering why television has been getting worse and worse, that's your main reason.


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 No.1450[Reply][D]

In light of both discussion on how the Romanovs, at least at the time of the 20th century (if not before that, as Peter I's prime minister was a jew) were, if not racially jewish servile to world jewry, and how the Korean Airlines 007 incident, involving the Soviets and Americans wasn't real, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's works and character should be taken into question. He's essentially the Russian equivalent of Orwell, both being former communists that later came to despise it and write literature against it; one of the most notable ones for now is his comment on the Bolsheviks being jews in his relatively recent work "Two Hundred Years Together". It's often quoted in faux-nationalist outlets such as Incogman, Smoloko/Shlomoko, Christogenea, 8/pol/ during its heyday, and various others, right next to the mulatto pederast Michael Jackson's music video "They don't really care about us" and General Patton's quote on the jews or about how they should've went for Russia instead. Now, Patton is the departure point for the main reason why Solzhenitsyn is suspicious: he was given "honourary US citizenship" by Larry McDonald, a relative of Patton whom supposedly died in the Korean Airlines 007 incident (more on that here: >>1054). He was also given a Nobel Peace Prize in 1970, another red flag, since Nobel prizes are typically given by jews to their fellow jews when they plagiarise or accomplish virtually nothing; essentially a less obvious version of jewish knighthood. He was supposedly in a gulag for 8 years, but he was using others' stories to describe it (was he really a prisoner in the gulag?) but at the same time, he was a friend of an incredibly suspicious character known as "Lev Kopelev". He was a jewish intel officer and former-Trotskyite supposedly interred in 1945 for criticising the atrocities of the USSR, released in 1954, and moved to Cologne just like Solzhenitsyn did, despite still being a communist. So one of his friends in the gulag was a jew, go figure.
Solzhenitsyn supposedly moved to Cologne and then the USA (which I always saw as an odd thing; why move to the USA, a country so far away from Russia instead of staying in Germany?), and moved back to Russia after his citizenship was restored under Gorbachev. Notice that his citizenship was restored under Gorbachev, not under the RF, of course, since the RSFR and the RF are the same entity. After this, he wrote Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1451[D][DF]

Of course, unlike sites like Incogman/Christogenea/other faux-nationalist platforms, Solzhenitsyn at least admits that the Khazar theory is fake, and that actual jews have been in Crimea and Russia since antiquity:
https://samisdat.info/books/two-hundred-years-together-2002/2002%20-%20Two%20Hundred%20Years%20Together%20-%20A%20I%20Solzhenitsyn.pdf
>One could begin by saying that the paths of Russians and Jews first crossed in the wars between the Kiev Rus and the Khazars, but that isn’t completely right, since only the upper class of the Khazars were of Hebraic descent. The tribe itself was a branch of the Turks that had accepted the Jewish faith. If one follows the presentation of J. D. Bruzkus, respected Jewish author of the mid-20th century, a certain part of the Jews from Persia moved across the Derbent Pass to the lower Volga where Atil on the west coast of Caspian on the Volga delta, the capital city of the Khazarian Khanate, rose up starting 724 AD. The tribal princes of the Turkish Khazars, at the time still idol-worshippers, did not want to accept either the Muslim faith, lest they should be subordinated to the caliph of Baghdad, nor Christianity lest they come under vassalage to the Byzantine emperor; and so the clan went over to the Jewish faith in 732.
>But there was also a Jewish colony in the Bosporan Kingdom on the Taman Peninsula at east end of the Crimea, separating the Black Sea from the Sea of Azov, to which Hadrian had Jewish captives brought in 137, after the victory over Bar-Kokhba. Later a Jewish settlement sustained itself without break under the Goths and Huns in the Crimea. Kaffa (Feodosia) especially remained Jewish. In 933 Prince Igor (Grand Prince of Kiev 912-945) temporarily possessed Kerch, and his son Sviatoslav (Grand Prince 960-972) wrested the Don region from the Khazars.
Note that Caffa was a Genoese slave-trading port, also where the black deaths, perpetrated in-large-part by jews originated. I believe that Solzhenitsyn could've either been genuine though pushed a bunch of disinformation and was rewarded for it by TPTB (hence his Nobel prize), or could've been a real disinformationist agent, and the latter seems likely.

 No.1452[D][DF]

>>1450
>he actually looked more like a Finn or Chuvash
Yeah, maybe. I actually thought of Spede Pasanen the first second I saw Solzhenitsyn's image.


 No.751[Reply][D]

Our president is starting a war just for the votes. Only it's not the same as last time. The "war on terror" wasn't too bad. This is Iran. They've got allies. Their allies have nukes. They probably have nukes. Realistically, how unlikely is it that our CIA is blissfully anaware? If this escalates, it could literally spell the end of the world. No joke. This isn't about attacking sand niggers anymore. This is really, really bad. There's two ways this could go. We don't escalate, it's fine. Or, we escalate, shit hits the fan, and inevitably, nukes start flying. I don't know exactly what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but world war 4 will be fought with rocks.

This could spell the end of the human race. There's a 10% chance that we're all dead by 2021.

I may never acquire the success in life I know I can have, just because someone wanted to win the election again.

Bummer.
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 No.1393[D][DF]

>>1391
>You know what "repeated" means. And it's not just about photographs. What about Thomson's experiment with the cathode ray and the magnets? What about Rutherford's little trick with the alpha particles and that gold foil? The modern atomic model covers these experiments and all others. What does yours cover?
On Thomson, Hawking (who I see as incredibly overblown as well) admits that he never saw an electron:
>He was experimenting with currents of electricity inside empty glass tubes, a phenomenon known as cathode rays. His experiments led him to the bold conclusion that the mysterious rays were composed of minuscule "corpuscles" that were material constituents of atoms, which were then thought to be the indivisible fundemental unit of matter. Thomson did not "see" an electron, nor was his speculation directly or unambiguously demonstrated by his experiments. But the model proved crucial in applications from fundemental science to engineering, and today all physicists believe in electrons, even though you cannot see them.
On Rutherford, Edmund Whittaker writes:
>Thus, Rutherford was led to what was perhaps the greatest of all his discoveries, that of the structure of the atom…He found that if a model atom were imagined with a central charge concentrated within a sphere of less than 3 x 10 -12cm. radius, surrounded by electricity of the opposite sign distributed throughout the rest of the volume of the atom, then this atom would satisfy all the known laws of scattering of alpha or beta particles, as found by Geiger and Marsden…Thus the Rutherford atom is like the solar system…"
So they were not actually observing atoms.
>lolwut. WHY. HOW. I'm not asking you to repeat yourself I'm asking you to explain the mechanism behind these substances releasing energy in the form of light.
It has to be continuous mechanism of some sorts, emitting light instead of particles. Admittedly, I've never experimented with them myself, these alternative-theories just make the most sense to me.
>First I'm hearing of it. How are atoms impossible to explain? Little bits that are also made of little bits that can interact with other little bits in predictable ways.
And how do we know these little bits exiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1394[D][DF]

>>1393
>Thomson and Rutherford can't be entirely certain they didn't observe something else
Yes, but the same can be said of gravity. Maybe the earth is just constantly accelerating at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2.
At this point it sure seems a lot like their findings correlate perfectly with the observed world. They've certainly helped us create some nifty inventions.
>Admittedly, I've never experimented with them myself, these alternative-theories just make the most sense to me.
Then you have a starting point. You're already at a disadvantage, I have personally recreated many classic experiments regarding atomic theory and sincerely tried to come up with alternate explanations but came up empty.
>And how do we know these little bits exist and interact with other little bits?
You already know what I'm going to say, don't you.
>their own existence cannot be proven
By the scientific definition of proven, it's been done many times over. I'm sorry, I kind of thought we were all on the same page regarding definitions but I've thought about it a bit and I really don't think we are. I've been using the scientific definition of proven which means "supported by overwhelming evidence." You're looking for something more like "I have personally touched and smelled a atom and God told me what it was." Again, theories are about what best explains the world around us. If atomic theory is all backwards, then the new theory will just mean more information for everyone. That's progress.
>is it not clear what I meant?
Yeah. Related to the bit about why exactly some substances emit radio waves and not others, I need specifics. Atomic theory gives me "charged particles ejected from violent nuclear activity in the sun are pulled towards the earth's magnetic poles, ionizing the upper atmosphere resulting in light-emitting plasma." Atomic theory also tells me what nuclear fusion is, what a particle is, what a charge is, what an ion is, what causes light emission, and what plasma is so that's in no way "Talmudic babbling." Your explanation just isn't robust enough to compete. It needs to be developed if it's to be taken seriously.
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 No.1396[D][DF]

>>1394
>Yes, but the same can be said of gravity. Maybe the earth is just constantly accelerating at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2.
Gravity has far more backing than the atomic theory, but discussing it is for another time, it's been disputed in the past as well.
>They've certainly helped us create some nifty inventions.
But my point with this is how these innovations, including nuclear weapons are fake, and that nukes in particular are a psy-op utilising faulty science.
>You already know what I'm going to say, don't you.
Not observation and experimentation, we've never observed atoms through that.
>By the scientific definition of proven, it's been done many times over. I'm sorry, I kind of thought we were all on the same page regarding definitions but I've thought about it a bit and I really don't think we are. I've been using the scientific definition of proven which means "supported by overwhelming evidence." You're looking for something more like "I have personally touched and smelled a atom and God told me what it was." Again, theories are about what best explains the world around us. If atomic theory is all backwards, then the new theory will just mean more information for everyone. That's progress.
That evidence as I have already pointed out, is not applicable; Thomson and Rutherford never really saw an atom.
>charged particles ejected from violent nuclear activity in the sun are pulled towards the earth's magnetic poles, ionizing the upper atmosphere resulting in light-emitting plasma." Atomic theory also tells me what nuclear fusion is, what a particle is, what a charge is, what an ion is, what causes light emission, and what plasma is so that's in no way "Talmudic babbling." Your explanation just isn't robust enough to compete. It needs to be developed if it's to be taken seriously.
1. My definition for talmudic babbling was the way you spoke, not necessarily the theories themselves (though I do disagree with them and acknowledge that they have been used in massive psy-ops)
2. We don't know that these particles even exist, realistically they cannot even exist.
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I think what you're struggling with here is that you're thinking modern atomic theoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>>1355
You've been told already to fuck off, quit rabble-rousing

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>>1355
>I'm going to get caught up in an argument because I think this thread shouldn't be bumped and bump this thread six more times in the process

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>>1366
As if this board doesn't have an obvious sage feature?


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