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 No.939[D]

https://www.neustadt.fr/essays/against-a-user-hostile-web/
The internet's so fucked. By extension, so are we. It's so goddamn depressing to think about how the one place where I can feel even slightly good at something is such a shithole. The web's fallen so far, and it's only getting worse. Is there any hope of restoring it back to what it was?
I feel like the entire human race had a mere 20 years to communicate with itself freely, before the internet became commercialized and nobody can fucking say or hear anything real anymore. Will we ever be able to achieve such true global interconnection again?

 No.941[D][DF]

>>939
Damn... Im read that article and i want to make 22chan as anonymously as possible. The next thing im gonna do is remove google recaptcha and use selfhosted fonts

 No.946[D][DF]

>>941
Thanks Twoot. You're a great guy.

 No.947[D][DF]

>>941
twoot, while we're on the topic of anonymity, what benefits to tripcodes really offer to 22chan? the reason I ask is that while they may have a useful and verifiable purpose, at 4chan they've been a big part of the steep decline of the site in general, where any noname meaningless normie can pretend like its reddit and make sure everybody knows who's making that valueless post, and I think they also gave rise to the generals culture, where the trips allowed people to think that its necessary that people know they're some authority figure in a special general thread. anyway, I kind of ranted on accident, but I did want to bring this up

 No.948[D][DF]

>>947
Hmmm, you're right. I mean we would still have ids on /pol/ and so.

 No.949[D][DF]

>>948
I think its perfectly fine on /pol/ there's a lot more going on there that necessitates the ability to distinguish who's saying what. foul play in a political climate would be one of the worst types of shitposting in my opinion

 No.950[D][DF]

>>948
How about robots.txt ?

 No.951[D][DF]

I actually believe that the internet died a couple of years ago, the web's appeal was in exposing yourself to new ideas, and finding people who are intersting in yours, this requires the user to go out of their comfort zone and reach out to others.
The internet now is boring, it doesn't interest the same type of people who lived it's ealy days.
If you are looking to get that same feeling of connection with others the web provided in the past, i would try the old way, traveling.

 No.1289[D][DF]

For facebook and other sites, its all a game of ego and narcisism. It's not about who you are on the inside, its about external. People judge you for everything you are, and you advertise and lie about yourself to make you and other people FEEL BETTER. With imageboards. I don't know who you are, what you look like, no profile pics or anything. When we talk, nothing matters, everything external is stripped when you an imageboard. The onlything that matters is who you are on the inside.

 No.1290[D][DF]

>"when you an imageboard"

 No.1866[D][DF]

It's funny how people shut themselves off now, too. It's not just the big companies that are locking it down. The people who put your name on a blocklist for politely disagreeing are just as bad. A lot of people don't want to be exposed to new things.

 No.1885[D][DF]

>>941
Years later, this is still working well. Thank's twoot.
>>939
Honestly, i don't know. The issue is that EVERYBODY has to agree the internet is a hellhole, and work on fixing it together.( i guess its the same "it starts with you" deal, but highly doubt that'll work out well) Another is is the sheer fucking hatred that seeps off of every site, there's no fun anymore, and it's rare to see fun loving people talking about whatever anymore. it's a gladiator pit everywhere.

 No.2715[D][DF]

>>939
I feel like it's only going downhill and i'm not sure i can do anything about it

 No.2724[D][DF]

>>2715
All you can do is stick to small sites and try to foster community there imo. Hopefully people will wise up eventually and ditch the social media giants, but it's hard to imagine. It's weird because I feel like everyone I talk to agrees that social media is bad and that they'd prefer a different internet, but it's very rare for someone to actually act on that opinion.

It'd also be good to promote creating and following personal sites instead of social media, but I don't know how you'd even pull that off in 2021.

 No.2725[D][DF]

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>>2724
I quit all social media a few months ago and the difference in my mood is incredible. I'm less stressed and just happier overall. I don't spend hours laying in bed scrolling through Instagram or some other cancer app. I'm more out of the loop on most things now but it actually feels nice. It doesn't feel like I'm constantly connected to the entire world anymore.

 No.2726[D][DF]

>>2725
you'd think being connected like that would open doors to good opportunities but it seems like its just dragging people down or ruining people's lives

 No.2804[D][DF]

>>2726
Yeah, it does. I believe it's because social media is very evil if you think about it. The algorithm most of these platforms use, such as Facebook and Instagram, is programmed to show you what you want to see. For instance if you like a lot of pictures of cats on Instagram the app will show you more pictures of cats. It learns about you. In the context of cute cat pictures, this doesn't sound like a big deal. Now add to the mix wild conspiracy theories and paranoid thoughts.
Flat-earthers are a good example of this. You see other people talking about how the Earth is flat. You start to wonder yourself, is the Earth actually flat? You look it up on Facebook, you find a few flat Earth groups. In these groups are countless people posting reasons why and alleged proof that the Earth is flat. There are also countless people who agree with these opinions and not a single person who questions them. Before you know it you've dragged yourself into an echo chamber where the only opinions and ideas you are exposed to are those which you agree with. And the algorithm is more than happy to show you more, because it knows this will keep you using.
It's a real cult mindset. Push everything that questions your reality aside. Then when reality starts to clash with whatever you've seen on the internet, that can wig some people out. I think this has the potential to be very dangerous, as this could very well create hundreds, if not thousands of splintered groups that that are deadset that the world works this way and not that way. I believe this may lead to some serious conflict in the future.
This is one of the main reasons I quit social media. I didn't know what to believe about the world around me anymore. Now I try not to think about it as much.
Another thing I wanted to mention; social media is a greatest hits collection of whoever's profile you're looking at. People look awesome when viewed through their social media profiles and others compare themselves to this. Everyone posts a picture of the ice cream they just bought. No one posts a picture of the ice cream they just dropped on the ground.



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