We have been trying to figure out ways to bring activity to the site, and we were thinking of adding a new board. A new board would help bring in newcomers and widen the range of discussions that can be had.
What new board would you want to see on 22Chan?
Make sure to consider problems that might come up with the potential board. The global rules might not be able to filter out cancers. How would you deal with any problem that may arise? Rules exclusive to the board? Think about problems you had to deal with in whatever community you came from or problems that happened on boards you know of.
We don't have to use typical boards you'd see on any imageboard. Even if we do, consider re-naming them and widening the topics to be discussed. As an example, let's say we added a /pol/. Instead of calling it /pol/, we could call it "Dialectics" or /dia/ for short. The board's topic would be politics, religions, philosophy, history and the humanities.
Also consider inventing new boards with topics unheard of on typical imageboards!
As a bonus it might be wise to go and re-name the generic boards we have, such as /b/ and /a/ as an example. In the past we re-named our R9K board to /yu/, and we even altered the topic to be of feelings and emotions. This is just an idea though.
If you have the ability, consider making custom CSS that would be embedded in the board, and consider adding a feature that would make the board stand out. As an example, /i/ had oekaki, /mu/ had mp3s, and /f/ had ruffle.
Once the board has been added, make custom spoiler images! Make new banners and think of stuff to add to make the new board stand out.
With that out of the way, I would like to point out is that our goal here is to add a board no matter what. A board that everyone will enjoy using, And that will be active enough to justify its creation. Yes, we aren't trying to emulate 4Chan but also we are still first and formost, an Imageboard. It would be stupid to add a board with a name and topic so archaic that only a few would bother posting on it, when the community literally wanted (as an example) /fit/ for a board. The statement above is to encourage everyone to think outside the box.
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I'm interested in math and abstract reasoning, so something like /sci/ without the science could be fun. Things like physics or chemistry could be accommodated, but one look at /sci/ reveals the downsides of broadening the discussion to include easily sensationalized topics.
Even if people aren't experts, I still enjoy a thread where everybody weighs in on something confusing, like the Monty Hall problem or one of those riddles said to appear in job interviews. Something as simple as a pointless argument over order of operations always makes me laugh.
For features, this probably wouldn't require much. It might benefit from a random number generator like the one on /tg/. Graphing, while useful, would probably be out of scope and better deferred to outside software. A 3D model visualizer could come in handy but might be difficult to implement and moderate.
Regardless, knowledge is power. I think this could appeal to a niche that doesn't have many places to go. I'd call it /iq/ just to take the piss.
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/☺/ - hieroglyphics. No text allowed, only pictures. Reasoning: it would be mad fun and I can't say I've ever seen such a thing before. Imagine the autism that would ensue. Board rule, of course, no phonic communication (uses words to do the job.) This includes pics containing long text or filenames. Any necessary non-post text (title, date, etc.) is in Wingdings.
>>301
I like this idea. It would make Tegaki a much more crucial part of communication. I think it should also include emoticons for games of charades without flooding the image servers, and to make communication more varied
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I don't know if it'd be completely off base to suggest this here, but I'd love to see a board called /edgy/ for dark and edgy topics. It'd be the place to discuss off-kilter things that would get you called an edgelord for bringing up in other places.
/1n73rn37s/
internets, the board is less for oldfag larping and more for the discussion of the internet. not kiwifarms or ED or anything negative but more channeled towards the positive aspects of the internet like cool stuff you found, websites you like, any stories you have of communities you participated in, fun blogs, websites, neocities pages, and the list goes on. i guess my intention for this board is something positive and to showcase that the internet isnt a total hell hole.
personally i would like an /x/, i love folklore and i really like it when you cant tell if someone is making up a story or if they are telling the truth and it doesnt matter one way or the other. i like it when people discuss stuff you havent even heard before and you walk away a changed man.
the """otter""" problem showcased in my opinon hat we can have a /pol/ of sorts and it be devoid of reactionary retards debating sensationalized topics, and filled with fun. i was always looking forward to seeing what people would post next and laughing at funny videos
>>300
this is a good idea
>>301
>emoji
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the goal stated was basically to add a board that would be able to carry it's own community and i question how this board would do that. also, /sewers/ is the designated funposting board. it seems like the board would be /b/ but with extra steps of users masking phonic communications. don't get me wrong i like it in a way of that it reminds me of how hackers back in the day would communicate using leet speek as a way of throwing off web scrapers. it's just i question the post quality the board would generate.
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>>302
This is honestly a terrible board idea and fundamentally at odds with the ethos of 22chan. Why should we completely isolate posting image files on 22chan to a board where those images cannot be discussed? If anything, this could easily be translated into a thread idea for /sewers/. This place primarily thrives on meaningful discussions, which is why every single board maintains strict rules against low-quality shitposts, except for /sewers/, where some leeway is allowed for more casual content. But even then, it is not supposed to mimic a place like /trash/, but actual effort put behind fun-posting (Remember it was called a place for more random stuff than /b/). Especially now that I see normal-faggot shit like emojis being mentioned, if your intention is to turn this place into a mindless equivalent of platforms like Discord/Twitch, maybe you completely misunderstood what 22chan is supposed to be, and it's better for you to seek out an alternative instead.
It might be basic and not too outside the box, but I'm shocked we're still without a dedicated board for visual arts/creativity. It's a broad topic capable of facilitating varied forms of discussion and critique covering drawing, painting, sculpture, comic art, etc. both by the site's users and the wider world. It's not hard to imagine. Personally speaking, it's more appealing for me to be part of a smaller community for this type of thing as well. It seems like a no brainer seeing as /i/ was a particularly active board on the old site (as far as I can remember) and as of now there's a fair number of threads that would feel at home on a board dedicated to creativity, just floating around /b/.
>>307
I've been pondering whether bringing back /i/ would inadvertently confine much of the website's OC to a single board. That's what I personally felt a bit like when /i/ was up on the old 22chan. If I remember correctly things like OC board culture threads, among others, were solely confined to that board, which likely contributed to their lack of traction. Let's say as a primary /b/ and /sewers/ user, for instance, you wouldn't necessarily want to navigate to /i/ just to engage in discussions about the website's culture when those places originally felt like the place to do it.
Another concern is the potential resurgence of unwanted attention from 4chan drawfaggots, who, while contributing OC, also stirred up problems for 22chan in the past. How do we handle such individuals, especially considering the difficulty in removing contributors of OC? Reviving /i/ might necessitate a complete rebranding and refocusing, perhaps towards fostering learning in visual arts and creativity that primarily focuses on contributing to other parts of the website, rather than merely being an outlet for website-related OC. Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding what /i/ would really entail, but there are currently a lot of /i/-ish related posts that are honestly perfect where they are.
>>308
What I also found rather concerning about these threads being isolated to /i/ is that the board culture on /i/ would primarily influence the board culture of other boards, often without many complaints from the other boards not using /i/. Like complete outsider drawfaggots might randomly appear on 22chan's /i/ to dictate future board culture, even though if they were posted on other boards, who knows how different it might have gone?
To tell the truth, I don't believe 22 needs a new board. Most general subjects that would see extensive conversation already have boards. For the topics that have dedicated threads on boards like /b/ and /yu/, it's fine to keep those as dedicated threads. Those threads are never active enough to warrant creating a whole board for them, because those boards would be just as dead as those threads are, except now it's more spread out. Plus, having them be dedicated threads feels more comfy
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>>310
I somewhat agree. The last time a board was made (/server/) was because that guy was hosting the minecraft server constantly and it had enough activity for one of the mods to pop up and make it just for that and the worms thread. You don't really see activity like that on a very specific topic so, like you said, it'd be pointless to have a whole board for a topic that isn't moving fast even in a singular thread. For example:
>>300 and >>304 would fit in on /b/
>>301 would fit in on /sewers/
>>303 would fit in on /yu/
However, I do have some conflicting feelings about /i/. Like >>307 mentioned, the point of the creativity and art board is to post and discuss creativity and art. /i/ doesn't mean "digital scribbles made for funnies", or at least it's not just that. I share the opinion that there's at least a handful of anons that are interested in these topics, including myself, and it'd be great to at least have a place dedicated to that like the OG site. I know the biggest counter argument against this is my first paragraph: There's been no major discussion of the general topic and the most popular thing about it is digital drawing which is located all within the /b/ thread, however, I know there's potential for the board, specially since /i/ in 1.0 was one of my favorite boards.
>>309
You have a point in that concern. We both know 22 is no stranger to subversion and invasions, but I have to remind you that those were different times. 2019, 5 years ago now, the board was still in its infancy and numerous people were desperate to shape the new quirky imageboard to their own liking, we had numerous internal problems and on top of all that we didn't have the defined core userbase we have today including the mods who take care of the board much more than a certain other admin ever did. This gives us enough wiggle room to experiment with additions like this because if some rando comes around and tries to twist the place to his liking we can just tell him to fuck off, if his trash isn't promptly deleted before that, of course. Shit like that wouldn't be new.
We already have dedicated OC threads on /b/, why would a board about the general topic of visual arts bring catastrophe if the already existing threads that are purely OC haven't? We have an amount of interest, we have the technology and we have the moderation, this is why I believe /i/ is worthy of being brought back.
also isnt it possible to add a rule to help /i/ cultivate its own culture? like if someone posted
>>309
image related, then we can have a little rule pinned in a thread to explain why we dont want 22chan culture threads in /i/? i would be behind reporting it i mean why no, after all old /sewers/ had a rule to delete posts and threads that engaged in non funposting and it makes sense since it would render the reason for the boards existance moot.
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I honestly don't see any issue with this complaint. Of course there's going to be more oc produced by a creativity board because that's part of its nature, and whether it becomes a part of board culture or not shouldn't be a problem if it's within the rules. The images posted as examples aren't even particularly egregious, and more just benign calls for users to create something with a consistent theme, because it's fun to compare the traits and ideas of others' work. You'd have a point if there were some clout chaser desperate about using the site as a vehicle to gain an audience, but that hasn't happened. Still, I can remember an instance (picrel) where an obvious attempt at a forced meme was rightfully lambasted by the community, which seems like pretty solid evidence against this concern. I like to think we're better than sheep that would latch onto any shitty scribble that's presented to them, let alone laud as integral to the board. We shouldn't try and force whatever "culture" we're trying to cultivate, but should rather let it happen naturally.
To be clear, I'm fine with a "no forced oc" rule, even if it's pretty dubious, but worrying that every drawing posted could have some damaging effect on the site is ridiculous.
>>313
what i was trying to say with this >>312 is that like threads about global board culture can stay on boards like /b/ and board culture like what sewers can stay isolated from the board and if someone tries to post like sewers culture art in /i/ it can be deleted or moved and we can like, try to help the theoridical new board develop its own culture like a mascot and stuff.
>>304
That's a good idea however websites dedicated to the concept already exist, also incorporating that concept into the culture of a chan board would be a disservice.
For what it's worth there are to my eyes wide gaps in the "alt-chan" market however I don't believe it's 22chan's place to fill them – /i/ and /☺/ would come as extensions of an existing culture, /1n73rn37s/, /iq/, /out/, /his/, ect. would need to be withheld from inactivity by newcomers and so would end up being a liability either way.
>>315
Wouldn't it be possible to have /i/ without it being an extention of an existin culture? Our /b/ board isn't a copy of 4chan's /b/ board so unless i am misunderstanding things, Couldn't we have an /i/ board with a unique culture without the baggage of a previous 4chan community?
The 22chan staff discussed adding the /i/ board, and we believe we could possibly add it under a trial period. If the board doesn't generate sufficient activity within a certain amount of time (1-2 months), we'll delete it.
Before we do this, we need the people who want this board added to clearly lay out what type of threads this new board will host. Based on the conversation so far, it seems the board should complement other boards rather than compete with them. This may also involve rebranding it under a new name to match the topic and avoid any outsider influence from "drawfags," as mentioned above.
Please also provide some examples of threads that could potentially be created on this board and identify which threads from other boards could be moved to it.
>>317
art is a diverse genre with many ways of looking at it. one can discuss paintings and artforms, one can discuss art from a long dead internet community, one can discuss buildings and architecture, discuss art improvement critique art, cinematography, hell even fucking dancing is an artform. something nicd about the other board is that it also supported general creativity so people discussed their hobbies and stuff they enjoyed doing, like there was this guy who could speak latin, the sky was the limit.
>>311 as he said /i/ wasn't just digital scribbles for funnies so i think balance is the key.
i can't imagine what to name the board, would "a&c" look strange?
A new board was added: https://22chan.org/cre8/ and a bunch of threads have been moved there. If you think something is out of place and doesn't belong there please let us know. (there is no trial period it stays indefinitely)
/cre8/ serves primarily as a hub for discussing, improving, and creating all forms of art. It's a place to share your work, receive critiques, find resources to develop your skills, and even collaborate on projects, ultimately allowing you to contribute stronger content to other boards.
Also regarding the net characters thread >>>/b/665/ should it be moved to the new board or stay on /b/? I ask because of the issues mentioned in >>308 although with the board being renamed to something else the latter one should be resolved.