>>206
I hope i don't sound rude by this request but can you elaborate a bit more? I'm out of the loop of the current situation, haven't checked kiwifarms as of late and most of the information being pushed around seems to be.... fake and gay.
Did he quit? was he ousted in a coup? perhaps assassinated?

There is a pinned 22chan thoughts thread with a conversation about this exact event. It doesn't need its own post. >>>/b/4016
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Remember to lurk and always be respectful. We don't take kindly to foreigners, and we intend to keep it that way. Assimilate, lurk, learn the culture, and you will be welcomed. （ェ▽ェ）

I don't know the current state of hirojew but as of late from what i understand the problem was a trojan horse PDF file and 4chan having outdated code being the cause, and that most of the tranny janny dox being fabricated, although from what i hear actual source code was leaked and severe damage was done to the point where the servers where taken offline and from what i understand, it'll take weeks to fix. People are flooding to varous "well known" altchans causing outages and rise of userbases while ours hasn't seen too much attention (atleast so far) although most of the content being posted is typical shlock you'd see elsewhere, much to the distaste of native posters. (even on websites that are of more... edgy.) Soyjack is still gloating and i presume they might have gotten outages on their end and it appears normalniggers are just catching wind of the happenings on 4chan.

>>209
>People are flooding to varous "well known" altchans causing outages and rise of userbases while ours hasn't seen too much attention (atleast so far)
22chan itself is pretty innocuous, and quiet, respectful and well made enough to drive away any true shitflingers. I trust our mods and userbase are smart enough not to tolerate any potential floods. If anything, a jump up in users and prospective eyes is a good thing that this website desperately needed. It's nice, but I'm tired of funposting and effortposting with the same 4 other people that know about this place.
I wish that we could foster and harbor a larger community centered around some kind of hobby that 4chan touched on that no other altchans do.

>>210
I'm from 4chan. This is my very first post here.
Been on that website since 2011.
This place looks fine and anons don't seem mentally ill.

I've been lurking kissu for a while now since 4chan went down and apparently a lot of anons fled there especially due to the well-known imageboard happenings thread. I find there's something really gay about the userbase of that website constantly trying to "welcome" people into it by having half the posts being about how they should stay and think of this place as their new home and the barrage of posts about how bad 4chan is and that kissu is much much better of a place.
Maybe I don't know what I am talking about but it kind of feels extremely forced...

>>212
From what you're describing, it sounds like a cult. I wouldn't want to stay in there for too long, especially with how insincere everything feels nowadays.
Lurking on kissu for a bit, it has the quirky nonsense that killed most western media today, and it makes it very difficult for any young person to watch a movie without expecting some ironic quip to be injected every 3 minutes.

>>212
idk I think what I am trying to say is that what kissu is doing is basically the exact opposite of trying to make people stay on there as I feel like the place should be able to sell on its own without the constant barrage of shit flying into people's faces. They probably have a lot of people on there right now that spiked the activity of the website that they really talked shit about over the years.

>>211
did you find 22chan through allchans by any chance? I imagine that's how most people find it since its almost never advertised anywhere.

>>215
Correct.
Went on allchan and clicked through a bunch of them.
This one passed the vibe-check so I decided to give it a go.
8chan has always felt 'too much' for me and I'd been feeling tired of 4chan for a long while now.
Everyone seems unhinged, overwrought and spiteful these days. Anons can't have a normal discussion in good faith before a bunch of them start lashing out and going bananas.
One could say '4chan's always been like that' but I can honestly recall of a time anons put some effort and genuine insight or wit into their posts instead of acting deranged 99% of the time.
That's my two cents with the risk of seeing the past through rose-tinted glasses.

>>212
Kissu is what happens when you try to persevere a culture born from the lack of moderation (on 4/qa/) through strict moderation, of course it feels extremely forced. Most of them were part of the exodus from the /qa/ rangebans, so they still resent 4chan.

>>216
Also found 22chan that way. Right now, I’m lurking Kissu, 22, and 7chan (which I thought had shut down). I had some bad experiences with 8moe, maybe because I didn’t lurk enough. I got banned there for no clear reason while I was just having a conversation about FF8 with another anon, even though the only other time I’ve ever been banned from an imageboard was 12 years ago for trolling, so that rubbed me the wrong way. 8kun is definitely very suspicious, so that’s a no-go. Does anyone know if frenschan still exists in any form? I really liked its last iteration, I'm not sure why they closed.

>>218
>8kun
That reminds me, During the 8chan.net exodus, a good chunk of the userbase that left became the early users of 22Chan, in a way we filled a niche that 8chan lacked, and we also became less of a shelter and more of a home since 22chan was pretty new.

Who runs this place anyway? There are no staff names or any hint a post was made by a staff member, even when it's clearly the case, like on /meta/.

>>220
There are no names, 22Chan is ran by anonymous staff members.

https://youtu.be/HMQsaeFb1IM [Play]
The song is so programmed to my mind, that when I attempt to listen to the original song, I'm waiting for the "These muscles, muscles, these muscles, these muscles" mash-up to layer atop the instrumental section.
>There is no data
>Shut up
>Shut the fuck up
>There is no data
>[My] fists are justice
>There is no data
>I'm the one who is right

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Not sure if this is real but I'm laughing my ass off.

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>>223
Its fake fam, though it would take months to be online again

>>224
I have a feeling there's going to be more fake leaks from now on lol

>>209
4chin refugee here.
From what I could glean, the current main problem is that a large part of the staff (19 jans and 1 mod) have left, due to their personal info getting leaked.
I don't think the main obstacle for them is to get the site up again, they have the source code, the domain is up. They just can't relaunch if they don't have enough staff to cover moderation on all boards, or else they run into legal trouble. They know very well the animals that are lurking out there, waiting to post stuff that could nuke the site off orbit if they get v&'d.
And they can't recruit new staff now, as they run the risk of being infiltrated by jokers.

>>208
This guy seems nice..Hi!

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>>226
You know, i've never thought of that angle. Now i'm wondering if when 4chan revives, there'll be a social power strugle on the boards, like verious niches will try and take over the culture that was there.

4chan needs to reconcile with the soyteens and make a official /soy/ board or perhaps bring back /qa/, while also fixing their security.
This is the only way to ensure long-term stability.

>>230
personally i wish they didn't exist or atleast people ignored them.

>4563
They can't really be ignored anymore, sharty has actually been more influential in internet culture than 4chan in the last few years.
The best 4chan can do now is to end their beef with soyteens.

>>232
they won't, infact it means 4chan has a even bigger reason to ignore them, they might ban soyjaks next if their smart.

the textboard he made (2ch) and the imageboard based on it (2chan/futabachanneru) are both a lot more charming and fun to use than 4chan ever was under his leadership. people are more clever, more mature (although still not always very mature), etc. if you understand japanese and have a vpn the answer to "what now" is to rejoice that the wonderful communities he created and abandoned are doing better than the one he bought. alt chans getting popular again is another plus.

>>234
Sadly, when an announcement was made that hiroyuki would buy 4chan from moot, many Japanese on 2ch and 2chan wanted to warn American users who were unsure or optimistic about hiroyuki's buyout of the site, citing the controversial data selling of Japanese premium subscribers and the like.
For me, it's clear that hiroyuki has not the feintest idea of how overly aggressive western internet and social culture is; rewarding aggressive behavior and exploiting the "weak" or indifferent. Not to mention, the lack of updating and huge amount of trust put on western users not to exploit security vulnerabilities as a result of extremely outdated software and very poor IT maintenance is yet another naïve failing on his part. Living in such a social, harmonious echo chamber like Japan proved to be one of his weaknesses.

>>232
How so. The soyjack itself came out of 4chin in 2017. Never heard of any OC coming out of that soyclub, in fact, I never heard of them until this incident

>>235
I just think he never cared. He's a passive income con artist that buys such projects that bring him a trickle of income from selling passes and ads.
Why would he invest any dime on updating anything if this never interfered with his income. He's just very unscrupulous.

>>237
I didn't know it cost money to have unpaid volunteers to just update software, at least with small, but critical security patches. The only cost I can think of is if there is no extra hardware resources to make backups of the server or paying a service to make backups off-site (not a very good idea, especially with the content of this site, unless it is encrypted), in case something goes wrong in the upgrade process.

>>237
>>238
I mean, hell, to add onto this point, the jannygers and developers of the site took the time to add functions to automatically filter images deemed inappropriate, mainly thanks to the "vidya butts" poster making nearly tens of thousands of threads prior to quad-chan's shutdown. I'm surprised it managed to work properly with what I would assume to be downported code to fit the woefully outdated software infrastructure powering the backend of the site.

>>235
Reminds me that not a lot of people even know about Hiroyuki's history on the internet. Although it was linked a few times on 22chan already people should really read this to find out the damage he caused to 2ch: https://anonymous-japan.org/fake2ch/ Not to mention that his carelessness made Jim take over the website who made it almost unbrowsable with the amount of ads and mismanagement he was pushing. I find it ironic that during the days of working at NIWANGO he was probably one of the only people working at nico nico who was frequently known to call out the management for its corruption and the management constantly tried to turn to him to try and redeem themselves.

>>235
what's lucky is that neither 2ch nor 2chan is owned by him or jim. the one that he made and jim bought got turned into 5chan and people got mad and made a new 2ch. 2chan the imageboard was never owned by him or jim so far as I know. so maybe they're selling my data, but it's someone I don't know and I have to use a vpn anyway because they don't allow posting from outside of japan so I don't see any reason to care.

>>238
>especially with the content of this site
It's not like they would need to back up the 'content', just the actual backend that templates the whole thing. The content is temporary user posts that get pruned.

And as far I know, 4chan had no devs, it might never had any real devs. Last time any development was done was when moot owned it. And even then it seems they just took the 2ch PHP backend and customised it a bit, as much as they could understand as amateurs.

>>239
Any development work is likely to have been done by amateurs with a bit of basic knowledge.

I very much doubt there has been any actual developer on that site that made money in real life as a developer. If there was, he would have done even the most basic upgrades to the server.

There might be some very specific reasons why they never did that. But the simplest explanation is that they never had any real devs.

>>243
I wouldn't be surprised if the newest iteration of 4chan (much like what happened to niconico, except like you mentioned, the content being completely purged), the whole backend of the site is rewritten in a completely different language.
If they stick to PHP, I will be surprised, given the rapid advancements made in backend web development technology; but more importantly, younger devs with far more free time likely don't know nor care to learn or program in PHP. I wouldn't be surprised if it was done in .NET with C# or JS or Python.

>>244
>especially with the content of this site

Most likely, there is nobody with dev experience in their team. Someone like that just wouldn't waste his time doing this kind of work for free. Everyone has bills to pay.
And hiroshimoot doesn't spend any money on the site, except for the hosting. So he gets what he deserves. He never invested in the site, it's a miracle the site survived 10 years without updates.

Who would want to do developer work for free to make sure Hiro doesn't lose his passive income cow. I don't even understand why would anyone want to be a jan/mod for free. Clout? Boredom? Or maybe some are agents of political influence. Maybe a bit of each.

>>245
It's likely clout, given the infamous "discord mod" or "reddit mod" pejorative, but with 4chan it is nothing but a mockery, unlike the other two that veer on the side of being predatory and a danger to society around them.

>>236
And culture splits, the wojack that originated the wojack was created in 2009, and you can even guess its relation to the "rage comics"
Everyone copies everything from 4chan, even japanese memes and culture was distorted from its original meaning, pedobear being an example. Throw in 2014 r9k culture like "chad" "stacy" and so on, the normalniggers had picked it up and adapted it for themselves already. As was mentioned soyjacks was created in 2017, how much influence can you directly place to /qa/ or even the soyjack site? You could actually be looking at discord soyjack spammers as direct influences, or even reddit as one, even then it's not a positive influence to begin with, shitty copy pasted images and witty one liners, part of the problem is that they didn't get banned to begin with.

>>247
Of course it didn't get banned, 4chan's hands off approach in this modern age of the internet, where anyone can access and use the internet no matter where you are, is a mere reflection of western social culture. For generations, even before the internet, ragebait and sensationalist nonsense have been rewarded; controversy sells is a common marketing tactic that works since it inadvertently causes word of mouth and becomes a very big deal in the zeitgeist.
Soyjaks, as far as I see it, is just yet just a new version of Dadaism for this current period of time. Where urinals being submitted towards committees that had high standards of what it considered proper art were making headlines in an era of "yellow journalism", i.e. piss journalism. It's a constant never-ending cycle of irony and insincerity.

>>236
almost all the new soyjaks after 2022 came from there.

>>248
>a new version of Dadaism for this current period of time. Where urinals being submitted towards committees that had high standards of what it considered proper art
at least the shartyposters don't actually believe anything they do is high art nor deserving of any respect