This board for Internet Culture and History. Threads and topics on this board should pertain to discussing various forms of internet culture, including but not limited to: celebrating, documenting, reporting, or sharing the history of internet culture, communities, and user generated content (UGC) across the internet.
What sort of topics should be discussed?
Videos, music, blogs, animations, video games (ex. games using Flash, Shockwave, or HTML5; downloadable desktop games), general media, forums, and other topics such as legacy communities that fit into the general description of "Internet Culture and History" are suitable. However, these should all be tied to a proper thread rather than randomly posted without a broader context. While there is no concrete format that absolutely must be followed, please refrain from making generic posts without the broader purpose of this board in mind.
Random uploads unrelated to the general topic always have a home on /b/.
What are some examples of historical UGC hosting sites / communities?
Sites such as Nico Nico Douga, YouTube, Newgrounds, 2ch, 4chan, YTMND, and more, are examples of websites that have hosted user generated content of historical merit. There is a great deal of internet culture and history that has been formed from sites such as these. Likewise, they each hosted unique communities that became distinctive enough to have their own sense of culture and identity.
Flash content
General SWF content made in Flash can be hosted on /f/. However, posts pertaining to the discussion of this sort of content are highly encouraged on /www/, due to their overall relevance and impact within the broader context of internet culture and history.
Resources:
https://archive.org/ & https://archive.is - Wayback Machine & Internet Archive, snapshots for most, but not all notable websites (mainly due to legal reasons)
https://theoldnet.com/ - Aggregator to view historic snapshots of notable websites, historic and concurrent
https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/ - Museum website to view historic snapshots of internet history
https://knowyourmeme.com/ - (Not Recommended) Platform used to document the many internet phenomenons. Like Wikipedia, many articles having questionable citations and documentation, it is not recommended to take at face value; explore the sources cited and go deeper to further your knowledge.
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/www/ - Internet History & Culture
To celebrate the creation of /www/.
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A thread dedicated to sharing infamous cases of Engrish, poor or strange localizations, and infamous cases of game and media translations that proliferated across the internet during the golden age.Edit
A thread about posting and discussing Anime Sound/MADs.
Feel free to share what you like about a particular Anime MAD or the Anime it's about, also, if you have any referenced parts that might seem mysterious to you use the provided tags/comments on a video to find more about it, or feel free to ask here.
Q. How do I search for Anime MADs on Nico Nico Douga?
A. Refer to the video posted in this thread: >>>/b/1833
Also particularly regarding Anime MADs, many studios have the ability to take down any video containing even a small clip of their anime on Nico Nico Douga, but many of them choose not to do so because they recognize that Anime MADs, from an analytical standpoint, have actually helped them achieve many more sales than they could have otherwise which was especially relevant back then. Of course, there are a few instances like the Anime Rurouni Kenshin (KYM) where Fuji TV will seize any opportunity to remove any type of video featuring their anime, even if it's just a small clip. So, the workaround for that was to collaborate and completely re-animate parts of the series that were frequently used in MAD videos, so Fuji TV couldn't claim it as their property.
Please try to refrain from posting anything created by overseas individuals and any YTPMV Cover-styled MADs; you can usually identify those using tags like 「原曲不使用」 (Original Song Not Used: that recreate the entire BGM with a bunch of fake instrumentally sounding samples).
You do not need to translate a MAD in order to post it here, although I bet it would be greatly appreciated by anyone browsing the thread, and often you can find the lyrics online. If you do decide to do it, here are a few tools you could probably use:
Subtitle Software: https://github.com/Ristellise/AegisubDC or https://github.com/arch1t3cht/Aegisub
Translation: Deepl.com, Rikai-kun(Chrome Extension)/Rikai-tan(Firefox Extension) and ChatGPT.
OCR Software: https://github.com/kha-white/manga-ocr (pip install and then run with powershell or cmd using a command like "./manga_ocr" in conjunction with the capture function found in something like ShareX: https://getsharex.com/)
I spent some time picking out these for the thread:
Fashion Foreman [Pocky & Pepero Day] https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16135975 [Play] (Video 1) Kaiji & Akagi x ORANGE RANGE Oshare Banchou
Today I'm going to say it forcefully Ehttps://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7729693 [Play] (Video 2) Minami-ke Okaeri (first few episodes) x Otome yo Taishi o Idake!! のワの
An Unusually High-Tension 'Lucky☆Star' https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1045437 [Play] (Video 3) Lucky☆Star x Hanasaka Tenshi Tenten-kun OP
【ＭＡＤ】ARCHIVE LOVERS【lain】 https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4827745 [Play] (Video 4) serial experiment lain x Ayane ARCHIVE LOVERS
[Nichijou × Kaiji] The Foreman Trying to Make the Kaiji Group Laugh https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15472714 [Play] (Video 5) Kaiji S2 x Nichijou 31 Episode 8 at 3:00
About that Anime that the Lucky Star video is parodying it is completely unknown to foreigners. It's basically about some alien angel that came to earth to help a unlucky boy who then creates more accidents, and I'm unsure if you can even find any subtitles for the episodes anywhere. The opening song as you might have noticed is hinting at something dirty, and believe it or not it was aired at 6 PM slot on Sunday when kids were watching the show: https://w.atwiki.jp/aniwotawiki/pages/16297.html
It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that the entire song revolves around the chorus.
Clearly singing about a certain body part, right?
The most important issue is that "Hanasaka Tenshi Tenten-kun" aired on Saturday evenings at 6 o'clock.
As Shonen Jump has many child readers, Shueisha probably took that into account and scheduled the broadcast for the evening. However, the lyrics clearly pick a fight with the PTA.
Originally, this dirty joke-filled song...
originated when Tenten-kun, amidst classmates worrying about the other protagonist Hideyuki, suggested, "Let's sing together to cheer ourselves up."
His classmates immediately retorted, "Can we sing lyrics like these?" which left many readers bursting into laughter. It was a scene that no one would have imagined a few months later becoming the theme song of the anime adaptation.
During the broadcast, the Bla Bla Bla Boozes, who were performing the theme song on a variety show that handled Fuji TV anime, appeared in bizarre attire. (Even Shonen Jump's magazine commented, "Who are these guys?")
When the program's host, Koji Imada, asked, "You were clearly saying 'that,' right?" regarding the lyrics:
"I'm just talking about being stiff," was the reply.
During the chorus, even the female backup singers seem to take a step back from the microphone.
No matter how ambiguously expressed, it sounds nothing but obscene...
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Regarding this guy some of his translation channels were likely taken down due to the political history M@DS he was uploading but most of them are still up. Pretty sure he kept making one channel after another in the fear it would get taken down unlike some idiots in that space who put all of their eggs in one basket.
https://www.youtube.com/@1000machine
https://www.youtube.com/@1100machine1
https://www.youtube.com/@1200machine
https://www.youtube.com/@200machineMarkII
https://www.youtube.com/@400machine1
https://www.youtube.com/@500machine1
https://www.youtube.com/@AnimeMAD0EngSub
https://www.youtube.com/@KaijiKiller
https://www.youtube.com/@kinderrrrrr1
https://www.youtube.com/@MadTanakaKeigo
https://www.youtube.com/@puroresuman1
https://www.youtube.com/@UnkoChomeChome
If anyone knows if there are more of his channel please link them here.
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Even though I know that blood sound effect is from one of the endings of School Days, I always think of the one that started it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkkF6Zz67TE&t=91s
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Apparently this video got hit with a copyright strike
>This video is no longer available due to a rights holder's claim.
>This video has been removed for copyright infringement at the request of VAP Inc.
>Content involved: Touhai Densetsu Akagi
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Ahh for some reason this collaboration video got deleted but the other ones on the channel are not...
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7724054 [Play]
>[Collab] Ultimate Brutal Masked Zero – Everyone tried adding illustrations to 'Full Power Nipponpon!
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This thread exists to explain to the anons browsing twentytwo on how to use the Japanese otaku video-sharing website Nico Nico Douga (Smile Video). So by the end of this I am hoping you will be able to upload videos, create mylists, and search for videos properly.
Nico Nico Douga's English variation platform was abolished recently although it wasn't really usable to begin with given how poorly it was maintained and nothing was explained to the user in the end.
I will also mention that the website best works with chromium based browser (I recommend ungoogled chromium, free of spyware) with Firefox there is tons of stuttering and slow loading times making it really unusable a lot of the times.
I will start off with Nico Nico Douga's Navigation Bar and explain what each of these tabs are.
Nico Nico Douga Icon: Click the Nico Nico symbol to return to the homepage.
Videos (動画): Browse all uploaded videos.
Images (静画): View user-submitted artwork.
Live Broadcasts (生放送): Explore a variety of available live streams.
Channels (チャンネル): A dedicated space where content creators, businesses, and organizations share videos, live broadcasts, and blogs.
Nico Nico Pedia (大百科): An extensive knowledge base featuring community-contributed articles on Nico Nico and Japanese internet culture.
Live Commentary (実況): Engage in sharing real-time danmaku (bullet comments) while watching TV or listening to radio broadcasts.
Nico Nico Douga Anime (Nアニメ): A comprehensive anime information and streaming platform, enabling users to share live danmaku comments during anime viewing.
Others:
Bloggers (ブロマガ): User-created blogs.
Contribution (ニコニ貢献): A service designed to visualize the contributions of supporters and the gratitude of creators.
Commons (コモンズ): A wide range of free user-created materials (BGMs, Sound Effects, Voice, Image/Video Materials, Character materials, Backgrounds & Wallpapers, Video Production Tools, Voice Synthesis, etc.) for versatile creative use like creating videos.
Nico Nico 3D (ニコニ立体): User-created 3D models many of which are available for download.
Partner Pass (NicoFT): Obtain personally signed digital items from creators in limited quantities, and support creators as "Partners."
Community (コミュニティ): A service where premium members can establish communities (groups) where participants can post, play, and comment on videos within the community (Newly uploaded or existing on Nico Nico Douga). You can use a community-specific comment thread, allowing for member-only conversations.
News (ニュース): A service that allows users to enjoy communication with each other triggered by news which receives news offerings from approximately 189 distribution media. There is also News Original for exclusive articles related to user-submitted videos on niconico and interviews with renowned users.
Nico Nico Q (ニコニコQ): A question submission service provided by niconico.
Premium Exclusive (特典コンテンツ): When you subscribe to their premium service, you also get the ability to enjoy premium-only videos like the ability to watch limited animes.
Search Bar:
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Video submission specifications for niconico: https://qa.nicovideo.jp/faq/show/5685
Video Overwrite Correction Campaign (Premium members only can participate)
https://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/244634.html
24-hour Overwrite Correction Submission Guidelines (Premium members only feature)
https://qa.nicovideo.jp/faq/show/19424
More information regarding submission of works that wish to take advantage of the high-quality audio feature. Note: High-quality audio option will not be available until around April 2025, and it is a premium-member only feature. If you attempt to upload a video with high quality audio, but it doesn't show up, you have 24 hours to correct your submission following the video submission guidelines to have your high-quality submission recognized.
If you wish to use the 576kbps feature, you must set the sampling frequency to 88.2kHz-96kHz.
Otherwise, your audio that is posted in PCM and FLAC will be converted to 320kbps (kind of like what this website does); although if you upload audio at 256kbps or higher, it will also upconvert it to 320kbps.
Side note: I had no idea niconico supported AV1 already, it was already one of the most requested technical features to add to niconico to ease the burden of storage space on niconico's servers and bandwidth for both dwango and the users, but it came at a cost of processing power since most devices did not support AV1 decoding until many devices that came out a few years ago to now and the future.
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>>24
Minor update on this, apparently Japanese users who have likely reviewed and assessed the verdict of the Dwango v. FC2 lawsuit also point out that FC2 also violated the patents by catering and targeted the Japanese demographic.
Other Japanese users mainly look at the other way for Bilibili, because they are not based in Japan, do not have Japanese UI and services, and are also based in a country where national law does not honor Japanese patents by default.
Side note: I also uncovered a rather old, but still during the time of niconico's attempted renaissance, a chain of posts that sigekun made regarding bilibili in 2018. This is roughly about 7 years before the ruling was in favor of honoring Japanese patents overseas by the courts.
I also saw other comments directed towards sigekun regarding bilibili in more recent times, but he has gone completely silent since those posts he made around 2018-2020.
Though, with the recent appeal being dismissed by the Japanese courts, it seems that niconico's patents are honored overseas as well, with many people calling on Dwango to sue bilibili as well. It seems the nicofags are out for blood after this ruling.
In short, all fingers point towards: as long as you do not provide services and products to Japanese users that infringes Japanese patents, you might be able to get away with it...broadly speaking. Meaning: no Japanese UI, no Japanese language, no Japanese sensibilities when it comes to social approaches and manners, and so on. Do not attempt to cater to the Japanese demographic or customer base, and you should be okay.
It also helps to not run a commercial operation and keep it 100% non-commercial, community, and/or personal-based.
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Japanese netizens are the most corporate boot-lickers in the entire world.
Imagine if we had similar videos centered around bombing the shit out of the cancer on 4chan and management.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3pjnp2ojig [Play]
Singaporean government funded news media, CNA, covers the niconico hack pretty early in the video. It certainly echoes my extreme concerns about Japan's lax approach to internet and digital security. It is absolutely ridiculous even after these major incidents, including the hacking of Nintendo and Sony's services, nothing has really changed.
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Your favorite thread from /pol/ before it was shut down returns. I'm going to be making as many translations as possible and posting the ones from the previous thread in here. You can also contribute by posting what you like found on the 政歴M@D tag on Nico Nico Douga: https://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/政歴M%40D or request a translation to be made. I will mention that not everything is found on the 政歴M@D tag regarding Political History M@D sometimes it helps translating a historical event or person into Japanese and then putting it into Nico Nico Douga search next to the "MAD" tag.
The video I am starting off with is not exactly a translation as there was nothing to translate apart from the original Nichijou lyrics so I made a bunch of tweaks to it.
The original video is: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15599763 [Play] made by B@oimo who has a few other videos like this that are worth looking into. I remember he made that sleepy Joseph Stalin Santa video as well.24 replies (and 33 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
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I found this in my mylist again... The doors opening "President Vladimir Putin" then Yeltsin screaming "Let's go" and proceeding to fucking dance to the song, the sudden pause in the song to announce Medvedev's name, the random fucking Stalker clip of that guy shooting. I am always in fucking tears when I watch this I seriously love this era of nico nico.
Now I need a version of Stossel going: No They Can't
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Still one of the most legendary videos on the political history M@D tag. I can't begin to describe how many times I have rewatched this.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!
>Good evening, party members!! This is Adolf Hitler!
>Great work on your activities today!!
>Then listen to this song and keep on conquering even moooore—go for it!!
>Alright, here we go! 'Brainwash・Exploit・Tiger Strategy!'
>HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL
>Deception・Sword・Spear・Bow・Pincer attack
>Battles・Vanguards・Falling streets
>One by one, fluttering down (words fall like leaves)
>Heavily marching forward (seizing without even a scratch)
>This is an important phase for honing skills
>For the fools・for education・for the people
>For the fools・for education・for tomorrow
>Everyone~ let's go~!
>Ready, set!
>★Brainwash・Exploit・Tiger Strategy! Brainwash・Exploit・Tiger Strategy!
>If you wish for everlasting peace, there’s only one path
>Stay just as you are
>With your innocent, unknowing eyes
>Try entrusting yourself to God
>HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL・HEIL HEIL HEIL HEIL
>Ready, set—!
>Brainwash・Exploit・Tiger Strategy!
>HITLER, SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!
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This thread will feature videos from the 歌ってみた (I tried to sing) tag from Nico Nico Douga: https://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/歌ってみた
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/歌ってみた
The tag is attached to videos where users on Nico Nico Douga record themselves singing and is one of the much more popular tags on there. The tag includes videos in various forms like singing over karaoke tracks, adding vocals to instrumental music, preparing your accompaniment, and creating completely original songs.
I want to start off this thread with one of Hyadain's I tried to sing videos. https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8887200 [Play] I found it initially while working for working on another project for the Medley thread. This is basically a remix of BATTLE2 from Romancing SaGa. This is actually his 44th work as mentioned in the description and it features a guest singer RIKO-san who sings the part of Sif.
I'll be honest I never played any of the Romancing SaGa games, but man... While translating this and listening to the song over and over again I actually began feeling something for the characters due to the seriously well composed lyrics. I think the part that got me the most was Sif's mention of throwing away her dreams as bridal life and throwing an axe instead of a banquet. Fucking amazing. I will follow up this thread later with another entry into Romancing SaGa that I found.
If you don't know about Hyadain (Kenichi Maeyamada) early on he used to mainly sing songs of old game BGMs where he would rearrange them and make up his own lyrics. He is known for an outstanding arrangement sense, the humor he incorporated into his works, being able to change of his voice (the female parts are usually all sung by him) and for a extraordinarily high pace of releasing new songs. He is probably the most popular I tried to sing singers on Nico Nico Douga who is also partly responsible for Nico Nico Douga's growth as a community.
He revelead back in 2010 on his blog that his real name was actually Kenichi Maeyamada who is responsible for composing J-POP and anime songs. His major debut... well... you probably know the anime Nichijou, right? He made the opening theme Hyadain no Kakakata☆Kataomoi-C: https://youtu.be/osWXbe7MbGE [Play] and https://youtu.be/1Xxnp0Q1GYQ [Play]
Isn't it fascinating to contemplate the hidden contributors behind the growth of the Nico Nico Douga community? Like I think it's quite amusing to imagine some prominent individuals like this secretly crafting anonymous accounts and creating MAD videos for tags like Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling... LOL10 replies (and 25 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
i love that KBC voice
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I want to sing this so fucking badly LOL. I wish there was a karaoke board similarly to 2channel.
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This guy's girl voice is seriously good.
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Take a deep dive with me and find some hidden treasure. No context is necessary, and there are many ways to explore these boards: https://www.2chan.net/ https://2ch.sc/ https://5ch.net/ https://prev.strangeworld.icu/ You can post screenshots of threads/posts and repost whatever content you find. You can use google translate, deeply and I heard some browsers automatically translate text. There are probably more options out there.22 replies (and 32 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
trying to browse https://may.2chan.net/b/ and its a bit difficult with the outdated view in the catalog. I believe there were a bunch of extension or sites to make browsing on futaba channel easier. Does anyone know?
Something in foreign. I don't really see the point in having a foreign country and language if you don't speak English. What am I supposed to do when I visit?
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Maybe I am too stressed to understand but can someone decipher what he's trying to say? I re-read that entire sentence more than 20 times now and it makes no sense to me.
>>117
That implies paying for a growing footprint of storage, on top of the site's bills. Imagine storing the shitposting record of millions of users spamming slurs and low-quality quips. I don't know what you could possibly use that for.
It's not like someone irl will ever ask you what's your IP or that any company ever checks what is your current IP before dealing with you.
What might be happening on a lot of sites (and in a lot of browsers) is that they might be letting bigger players use data to train their AIs. That's what I heard about a browser like Brave is doing. Though this is illegal in some jurisdictions, in the EU they would have to make it clear what handing over your data involves, what is it used for etc. And normally they disclose advertising interests.
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Oh yeah that reminds me I tried to look up Jim Watkins on the Japanese internet and posted about it to someone in DMs so I'll just repost it here:
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/ジム・ワトキンス
User Reactions and Popularity:
Initially, Jim was popular among users of the Kenmou board (嫌儲板) and other communities opposed to affiliate blogs.
He allocated dedicated servers for active boards like Nandemo Jikkyou J (NanJ) and VIP, which helped him gain support from many 2channel users.
Conversely, users who relied on affiliate blogs as news sources or ran such blogs themselves voiced strong opposition.
Shift in Popularity:
Jim frequently communicated with users on the Kenmou board, sometimes even changing the username field to "I am not Abe" (a political statement criticizing the Abe administration).
However, his reputation declined due to:
Inability to effectively counter 2ch.sc (Hiroyuki's rival site).
Partnership with the Jane Style developer (a widely criticized 2channel browser) to monetize ads.
Monetization changes in Ronin Membership, despite initially gaining popularity for offering free access to past logs.
He occasionally posts humorous comments like "Warota" (an internet slang meaning "LOL" in Japanese), prompting the typical user response: "Nani waroten nen" ("What's so funny?").
Comments:
"This Jim guy is the embodiment of resentment among the lowest of white society. His looks aren't great, and after retiring from the military, he got involved in pornography, leading a rather unimpressive life. This turned him towards white supremacy, and now he's contributed to the rise of terrorist groups like QAnon, causing division in America.
What's more amazing is that if it weren't for both Jim and Hiroyuki, the current division in America might not have happened. These two will go down in history... for all the wrong reasons."
"Isn't he considered 'poor white'? How can we help people in that situation? Maybe job placement programs?"
"This place has become an outdated dump full of society's rejects. Errors like 'Please take this elsewhere' keep popping up, and I can't post properly.
5ch is really done for this time. With stronger measures against defamation, maybe this site should just be shut down.
And to those complaining about not being able to see past logs – if you have that much free time, go to Hello Work (job center) and get a job."
"This is the worst mismanagement ever. It was already declining under Hiroyuki, but this guy has accelerated the decline at an unprecedented rate.
Instead of attracting users by improving the site, he just keeps adding more ads, driving users away even more.
It’s a vicious cycle. This place is a disaster."
"Instead of banning trolls, they boast about their tolerance for gore.
Admins here are seriously out of touch."
"I skimmed through the comments, and yeah, his reputation is pretty bad.
Like someone else said, he has zero willingness to listen to user feedback.
It's doomed."
"There’s a lot of hate against the new American admin, but blindly worshiping Hiroyuki, who also messed up plenty of times, doesn’t make sense either."
https://note.com/mitsuwo_virgil/n/n82c50a14dc3c
"The one who destroyed ASCII art culture on 2ch (5ch).
I wish he were dead."
"I hate this guy too, but he's not solely responsible for the decline of ASCII art.
The rise of smartphones, changes in browser font settings, and the rise of copyright awareness contributed more to its decline."
"I'm the reason Yukkuri became the 5ch mascot.
I sincerely apologize to all Yukkuri fans and MR** Sensei, except for JIM and those lunatics from Anajitsu and Ai boards.
Everything I get obsessed with ends up becoming a joke and decaying afterwards.
It’s like I’ve been cursed with bad luck."
"Is his wife connected to the Korean Peninsula?
Man, both this guy and Hiroyuki are two sides of the same coin... lol"
"Same with NicoNico — why do the admins keep changing the UI when people just come to see the content?
No one asked for these changes."
"He hijacked 2ch, implemented the forced ID feature (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ), and then made it so you have to pay to hide it.
Seriously, Jim is the worst.
Isn’t this criminal behavior?"
"This guy hijacked 2ch, made a bunch of changes, and eventually killed it.
Now, when you access 2ch, you’re forced to go to 5ch.
Most people can’t even post unless they mess with their settings.
Honestly, moving to Open2ch, which was created with the previous admin’s permission, is the best way to use it like before.
Open2ch"
Just a small snippet of what was posted.
Someone also posted an entire time-line of events what happened after Jim Watkin's takeover but it might get confusing with the MTL translation.
This thread is exclusively for discussing the Wrestling Series (レスリングシリーズ). I want to emphasize that the focus will be strictly on the Japanese instance, and any discussion of its overseas counterparts is absolutely prohibited. This includes posting videos or content created by overseas creators. Also, please keep the celebrity and character completely separate from each other.
Beginning in June 2007, users on 2channel's YouTube board began to suspect that the MyList rankings on Nico Nico Douga were being manipulated. This led to the creation of an official term called 工作 (Manipulation) after a July 1st thread pointed out the artificial inflation of views, comments, and MyLists. By July 27, 2007, a thread titled ニコニコマイリストのランキング工作動画について (Regarding Mylist Ranking Manipulation Videos on Nico Nico Douga) was created, marking a significant moment as it was dedicated to resisting ranking manipulation on Nico Nico Douga. The discussion in the thread mainly centered around the activities of a group known as 80垢 (80 Accounts), derived from the practice of adding 400 Mylist votes to several videos in the early hours, with 400/5 = 80 accounts (since each account could create up to 5 Mylists at that time). Their activities were particularly noticeable during the early morning hours, where they would push videos like the infamous "The Idolmaster KOTOKO Princess Bride!" (https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm280671 [Play], IM@S was a pioneer in ranking manipulation believe it or not) and "Tsurupettan" to the top of the Nico Nico Douga Mylist rankings, suggesting a coordinated effort. As this method was exposed, discussions in the thread intensified and attracted not only those who aimed to raise awareness about the issue but also individuals who wanted to exploit it, including 信者 (Believers/Fans), アンチ (Antis/Foes), and ただの愉快犯 (Just Pranksters) who looked at 80 Account as a deity. This led to either 順工作 (Forward Manipulation, where users manipulate trends, excluding genuinely popular videos) or 逆工作 (Reverse Manipulation, where users vandalize videos suspected of manipulation). The creators of the videos who were caught in the crossfire often deleted their videos because of this. Other users in the thread adopted a more radical approach, deciding to engage in manipulation themselves as a way to raise awareness about the problem. This led to the thread’s original purpose being sidetracked, eventually resulting in the split of users and the creation of the ニコニコ動画工作支持スレ【80垢神】 (Nico Nico Douga Manipulation Support Thread) General, on the same day, where users began organizing their own manipulations, partly as a form of protest against the 80 Accounts.
Members of the Manipulation Support thread began to manipulate a video called アメリカン ゲイ レスリング2 (American Gay Wrestling 2, https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm200572 [Play]) that was uploaded on April 26, 2007, which depicted two men wrestling with the saturation on max and low video quality. After, a few more videos were uploaded to the アメゲイ (Amegay) series until August 10, 2007, when the first video titled 本格的 ガチムチパンツレスリング (Authentic Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling) from the Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling series was uploaded and manipulated into the rankings. However, it was shortly deleted due to the original creator deactivating his account, but then reuploaded on September 30, 2007: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1175788 [Play]
Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling (GPW) is a wrestling style with a special rule: if your pants get taken off, you lose.
So why did this video become one of the key driving forces behind Nico Nico Douga's Golden years, and why does it remain one of the most viewed videos on the platform, with 9.8 million views to this day? This wasn’t just some passing joke; it became deeply ingrained in Japanese otaku culture, being referenced in anime, video games, news, and even on game talk shows, cementing its place in the Japanese internet otaku sphere.
The reason is the same as why a lot of other foreign media on the platform gained popularity during that era: 空耳 (mishearings). The two men wrestling in the video, Billy Herrington (a.k.a Aniki) and Danny Lee (a.k.a Kiyoshi Kazuya), had thick New England/Canadian accents combined with intense grunting, which led Japanese viewers to mishear nearly every line as something completely different in their own language.
For example, when Aniki shouts to Kazuya, "Huh? How do you like that, huh?" it was misheard as Thick and Saucy Fried Rice and now Aniki's favorite food is Ankake Chahan:
(Aniki) "Huh? How do you like that, huh?" ->「あぁん？あんかけチャーハン？」-> "Aan? Ankake chyaahan?" -> "Huh? Thick and Saucy Fried Rice?"
A lot of the character names too are based on mishearings such as for example Creamstew Ikeda from Shinnippori Fire Station (Firefighters): https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5348773 [Play]
(Aniki): I'm finished with you, get up -> くりぃむしちゅー池田 -> Kuriimushichuu Ikeda -> Creamstew Ikeda
But a lot of them are actually derived from how close a character looks to some kind of celebrity like Hatakeyama Bacon who resembles both the Japanese lightweight boxer Takanori Hatakeyama and American actor and musician Kevin Bacon.
I included a translation I made of the original Professional Pants Wrestling video posted to Nico Nico Douga (Video 1). In the next few posts, I'll try to continue explaining a bit more about the Manipulation Incident history and things such as the popular Sanshin of Fairy Philosophy by Pants Wrestling Aniki.
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https://w.atwiki.jp/herrington/
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/レスリングシリーズ
https://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/レスリングシリーズ
https://www.deepl.com/en/translator
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This translation was posted in a 4chan /v/ thread of all things. I haven't laughed so much in a while.
>An attempt at translating one of the most popular game MADs with GPW.
>this contains spoilers for Final Fantasy IV. If you plan on playing, recommended not to watch. If you don't care, have at it.
It's honestly great that this thread discusses the history of Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling in such a much more thorough and concrete way compared to many YouTube videos I've seen on this subject matter, to which all I've seen were done super poorly and without proper research, but I can't entirely fault them too much considering these people are likely not extreme lurkers and niconico addicts. I feel the beginnings and early history of Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling can only be figured out by those who either were there at the time, or those who've put all the puzzle pieces together with all the research they've put in.
With all the manipulation threads too, I doubt anyone else would know about this, I've known that Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling has had a fair share of planned influxes of MAD videos, but I had no idea these were manipulation threads, and I knew about kusomisoka too, and the history behind it, I've just never known that this was all due to these manipulation threads, lol. I read a comment/post of a user saying "At this point, it's more of an Aniki unity festival than manipulation." I couldn't agree more with that, within the modern days of this hemisphere, the days of pranking and baiting are long dated in all honesty, but this isn't to say that we can't do pranks on people more, if anything, I'd love for more of that to happen.
>Next time, we need to prepare some new material.
It was impressive how far we got with an overused Aniki.
^ With this in particular, so much material was made with different characters. Later to have more and more discovered even in modern day.
This brings me to ask, how do we bring this information to people? How do we talk to people regarding the actual history of Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling? I don't want to go about freely sharing this thread because I rather keep reading this multiple times to get a full understanding of everything. Every video I've seen talking about Pants Wrestling Aniki has been either too surface level, too bleak, or left me with too many questions to the point where I become angry.
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Here is an English translation of a IM@S Pants Wrestling MAD by Not-Sixxさん.
Title: 本格的スマイル体操 (Fully Authentic Smile Exercise)
Author: Not-Sixxさん
Original link: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22837634 [Play]
