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The Rose of Versailles — 2025 Anime Film Anonymous Sun 04/05/2025 11:36:28 PM 18 days ago MER No. 659
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Earlier this year, the release of the 2025 "The Rose of Versailles" adaptation hit theater screens in Japan after several years of production.

On April 30, the film was distributed globally by Netflix, replete with dubs in multiple languages. In this thread we will discuss this release, our views on the work, and any other relevant applicable commentary.
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Anonymous Mon 05/05/2025 7:50:24 PM 17 days ago MER No. 665
>>664
If I understand correctly, Netflix did not handle the adaptation, they are only the worldwide distributors of the film.

As for your summation, yes. You are correct. Unlike in fiction, there is no need to contrive such controversies because the events in the work are based on the actual history of the French courts, even if dramatized. The series does a phenomenal job at portraying these controversies interestingly while also making Oscar a meaningful observer and, at times, participant.

There is good reason I was so eager for the film, despite my reservations. The entirety of the court intrigue is sadly cut from the film, aside from the romance plotlines. I hope you will enjoy the series as much as I did. It is a rare case of something that captivated me entirely, with apprehension knowing that it was coming to an end with each step. Few series do so good of a job at bringing the viewer along for the life of a character in such a way that is actually well executed.
Anonymous Tue 06/05/2025 6:49:31 AM 17 days ago MER No. 667
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>As for your summation, yes. You are correct. Unlike in fiction, there is no need to contrive such controversies because the events in the work are based on the actual history of the French courts, even if dramatized. The series does a phenomenal job at portraying these controversies interestingly while also making Oscar a meaningful observer and, at times, participant.
My point was not about the show being contrived or fictional... I was comparing RoV's pacing and drama to LOGH which drags and doesn't capitalize on its potential, especially when we're talking about fiction where there's no limit to what you can do (it's a piece of shit and I don't care what anyone says otherwise). Yet in RoV it feels like something important is happening in every single episode as in it does not like to drag on filler. Even if some events might be made up that’s not a bad thing at all -> If I wanted to watch a documentary I'd do that instead. Because with this medium I'd rather watch something like Amadeus where the history's exaggerated because it becomes a performance... same way Mozart composed to stir emotions, hold attention, and leave impact not to follow rules or chase accuracy.
Anonymous Tue 06/05/2025 6:50:35 AM 17 days ago MER No. 668
>>667
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXGHsvk0k1fa3gIaEKXGoK-rPeX6P77tG [Play]
Anonymous Mon 12/05/2025 7:07:51 PM 10 days ago MER No. 671
I am 19 episodes in and it's a kind of emotional rollercoaster which I thought would maybe stagnate at some point but it's the complete opposite. Every episode just keeps getting better and I want to watch more and more. Every episode tries to progress the story forward and forward there's no time to waste and a lot of things to be said and shown like watching a never ending movie. A commonly overused phrase but I would say this anime feels like it truly was ahead of its time, especially in how Oscar is portrayed as a woman raised as a man, commanding respect and romantic admiration from both genders. It's the kind of character you sometimes see in anime that came after it, which probably drew inspiration from this one originally(?)
Also, I know it's historical, but I really don't like how the narrator sometimes just spoils things and keeps reminding you of what's going to happen in the future, like Madame de Polignac influencing all decisions of Marie Antoinette for the next 10 years as though she was ruling from the shadows, and you're told this just as you're being introduced to her.
Anonymous Mon 12/05/2025 7:22:35 PM 10 days ago MER No. 672
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Why is it always english dubs that are so abysmal? Anonymous Tue 09/05/2023 3:18:37 PM 2 years ago MER No. 126
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German, French and Russian dubs of anime are often pretty decent to great. But outside of VERY rare exceptions, English dubs suck more than often than that they're passable or decent. I don't get why that is, for a language that is spoken by the majority of people around the world, the scene for dubs is extremely small and basically contains only a few voice actors that play in everything and the translators are always those types.
I'm not even particularly that big of a subfag, I do often like watching stuff in its original language but when a dub is good I'll always give it a shot either on first watch or rewatch.
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Anonymous Wed 20/11/2024 8:44:54 PM 6 months ago MER No. 532
>>394
there was a fan dub of the final episode of the f zero anime that was well done
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxJfblX7A [Play]
Anonymous Wed 20/11/2024 11:43:30 PM 6 months ago MER No. 536
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Sorry but english dub watchers are stupid NIGGERS as it's nothing less than spitting on the creator's vision, a complete insult to them. imagine someone like Hayao Miyazaki spending years crafting every single detail from the dialogue to the cultural nuances to the visuals, all with intent and precision, and then you go and watch some bastardized cut-down disney dub that tears apart those subtleties, leaving behind a cheap hollow shell of the original, which then gets unfairly associated with him as if it reflects his vision. Even worse when it gets fully mangled into another language, erasing whatever soul the work once had.
Do you really think any official dub studio in the U.S. works relentlessly to hammer the character’s essence into the voice actors, making them understand the context of every line and the emotional weight behind it? no shot. most dub actors just get handed a script and are told to read lines. it’s treated like a part-time gig, not an assignment where they study and embody the character fully. This lack of respect isn’t new. Is it even a surprise that a company based in the US like A.D. Vision took advantage of the process? they churned out things like their troll dub of ghost stories that OBLITERATED the original series in the west >>>/a/282/ and anyone trying to watch it as it was intended gets laughed at for even suggesting it. And don’t get me started on fandubs. I have not watched a single fandub where there isn’t awkward delivery and retarded attempts to mimic the Japanese high-pitched voices. It creates this extremely strange hybrid of japanese and american styles that doesn’t fit naturally in either language. The mix of cultural elements feels forced and makes the entire thing come across as unnatural and out of place. Then even with subs you have to pick translations carefully to find teams that worked tirelessly to preserve the same meaning and nuance otherwise you’re still getting something warped. But watching a dub? that’s not about convenience it’s straight-up apathy. it’s choosing to ignore all of that to consume a watered-down version of something brilliant, made bland for mass consumption. With modern anime, though, this issue might matter less now because most studios couldn’t care less anymore as they outsource production to third-world shit-holes, cutting corners and churning out low-quality garbage that lacks any of the original precision or passion. So when the creators themselves don’t respect their own work it’s hard to expect anything better from the dubs. But even with that, the core problem with American dubs hasn’t changed. They still try to cram something fundamentally foreign into a completely different cultural lens, watering it down into something unrecognizable. If you really want to experience a work as the creator intended, the best way is to watch it with subtitles but not just any subtitles as you should stick to approved fansub groups that actually care about preserving the original meaning, tone, and cultural nuances (NOT FUCKING CRUNCHYROLL).
And if you absolutely have to adapt it for another audience at least don’t half-ass it with a dub. Go all out and remake it entirely in your own style with permission from the original creators. At least then it becomes its own version, a separate work that can be seen as another option and not a replacement for the original which should not be treated in the same lens as these adaptations.
Anonymous Thu 21/11/2024 12:48:39 AM 6 months ago MER No. 537
>>536
thats why i watch subs, the only thing that scares me is the translation being fucked with on purpose.
Anonymous Tue 06/05/2025 5:06:45 PM 16 days ago MER No. 669
>>537
https://armitage.crinkle.net/karinkuru/howtosub/
Anonymous Tue 06/05/2025 5:14:08 PM 16 days ago MER No. 670
>>669
>visitors since 9/6/99
Jesus that's old. I wonder how much of it still applies?

Cool Retro Anime Thread Anonymous Tue 19/11/2024 7:49:45 AM 6 months ago MER No. 517
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This is a thread dedicated solely to cool retro anime or manga. Anime that feature action, violence, philosophy, sadness, and are from the year 2000 or earlier.
Screw anime filled with generic anime babes and slice-of-life nonsense! I don't want Isekai, I don't want school romance! I don't want feel-good otaku-pandering nonsense! I don't want comedy! I want men at war, I want real drama, I want high stakes, I want COOL anime!

Shows and movies from this era include: Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Akira, Vampire Hunter D, Darkside Blues, Midnight Eye Goku, Ninja Scroll, and countless others

All of us already know about the legendary shows and manga that formed the foundation of modern media, but a lot of relatively unknown films and shows also inspired many modern creators, so this is a good place to share more obscure yet still well crafted media from ye olden times, while also discussing anything retro or "old" you're watching.
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Anonymous Fri 22/11/2024 9:12:28 AM 6 months ago MER No. 541
>>539
In my opinion, the Trigun anime is better than the manga, because it has better pacing and the process by which the watcher learns more about Vash and the world is much more interesting.
Things that were big mysteries with little hints and foreshadowing placed in the show are just sort of dumped on the reader in the manga without any ceremony and it just felt kind of weird.

I also love Vampire Hunter D, and I think that both of the movies are absolutely spectacular watches with very good and interesting animation and a cool world, but Bloodlust is by far the better of the two and it makes me wish for more.
Anonymous Thu 02/01/2025 5:21:54 AM 4 months ago MER No. 568
I'm 40 chapters in grappler baki and it's great.
The potrayal of movement and action is realistic, flowing and dynamic and it's incredible. The artstyle is perfect too, i get a retro feeling from it, it reminds me of an anime or manga i must have seen before. The story? They jump into the action with little to no details about the protagonist and it's what i needed. You don't know how many stories i've read where they give a long rambling history of the main character and for baki they did something diffrent. Hell, they introduce the father but they obscure his face and details of his body, and only hint at all the terrible shit he did, turning him into a horrible monster and a legend. I like how batshit moments in the story goes down and instead of taking it ironically they play it straight and pretend everything is normal, they also exaggerate various things and it leave you guessing if that thing is real like "was that move that guy used real?" "is that a real science fact? i need to google this"
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I saw Vampire Hunter D a few weeks ago. The narrative is simple. I'd call it disappointing, but that's thanks to preconceived notions. Fable-like is probably more appropriate. The main theme is kinda neat. The film asserts that the beauty/purpose of life is in its briefness. It keeps this from being trite by offering a protagonist that's been robbed of mortality. The movie slowly reveals his novel solution to this existential plight: he becomes an enforcer of death, hunting down those that try to cheat it (Carmella). He handles the hypocrisy of being immortal by leaning into the idea of radical change, that when the day comes that he succumbs to his corrupt vampire self there will be a hunter to strike him down. In short, he has made himself both a supporter and example of the absolute nature of time. His foil demonstrates a loophole: not everything that lasts forever is evil, namely love. Somehow I fell a little pic related about it though.
The main character has a Parasyte hand that was supremely annoying. His role was to say "woah D you are damn cool but this shit am pretty danger, you are going to die" and then D doesn't say anything and is cool and doesn't die. The nature of the Parasyte hand is never elaborated on. It seems like there are hints about every part of the world of Vampire Hunter D but the hand is literally just there to be a nerd. You could clip out all of its audio and screentime and the movie would be categorically improved. I'm aware that there's a manga that may clear up some confusion regarding worldbuilding but the film is pretty compelling as a standalone window into the home of a storied postapocalypse where remains are strewn through every nook and cranny. Sort of like Tolkien's fantasy, sometimes stuff happens that clearly plays a role in the history of the world but remains temptingly unexplained because it just isn't consequential to the hero's errand. Most of the meat is in the action and scenery, which is not a bad thing.
7/10
Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 2:57:55 AM 1 month ago MER No. 636
>>568
I don't really plan on going farther with baki, the ending of the original manga was a good send off in my opinion.
>>569
The thing with the hand sounds like the fat friend trope lol
Anonymous Tue 06/05/2025 5:00:04 AM 17 days ago MER No. 666
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This is from Golgo 13 - The Professional (1983).
This was notably one of the earliest examples of an anime film using CGI, and boy, watching this makes me appreciate Akira a lot more in how that film used CGI much more sparingly and not for entire scene compositions, unlike Golgo 13.

22Chan's Recommended Anime and Manga Anonymous Sun 09/04/2023 8:32:48 PM 2 years ago MER No. 84
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On old 22chan there was a thread for various anime and manga recommendations, and I decided to "revive" it
You may think of it as a book club
Wether old or new does not matter
Simply post what you read/watch or did so in the past

My contribution is a manga I found through the aforementioned previous thread.
If by chance the one who posted this there reads this; thank you very much, it really stuck with me.

I hope you guys will enjoy it as much as I did
https://vgperson.com/other/mangaviewer.php?m=3
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Anonymous Sun 06/04/2025 12:40:06 AM 1 month ago MER No. 611
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>>597
I'm in the same boat. I wanted to try some more mature manga and it seemed to fit. The exaggerated outbursts and super detailed close ups (especially the ones on punpun's uncle) have been highlights for me. I'll continue reading it for sure. The characterization of God is really bizarre and a little creepy, honestly.
Anonymous Tue 15/04/2025 1:51:49 PM 1 month ago MER No. 613
Crime and punishment: a falsified romance is a pretty good adaption of crime and punishment, it's a good take on the story and just as dramatic. If i have to be honest i was hoping for maybe a bit of the storyline behind the sisters "husband" and maybe more shit about the "legal concubine" stuff that was in the original book but i think they just decided to say that the "husband" was just some well meaning narcissist, unlike the book. Maybe the author ran out of time or decided to ignore that plot thread.
Anonymous Fri 25/04/2025 5:09:26 AM 28 days ago MER No. 656
I was reading the seinen manga adaption of the train man manga, it's pretty cute.
Anonymous Sat 26/04/2025 3:30:29 AM 27 days ago MER No. 657
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Manga suggestion: All you need is kill
I found it while browsing one of those websites that hosts mangas, i had been browsing under the mature tag, and after spotting i was like "eh, why not?" thinking it would be some throwaway story, not realising that i had found a real classic. It's funny too because i didn't know that the light novel that had been adapted into this manga, was later used as a basis for the fucking movie with Tom cruse, Edge of tomorrow. But no doubt the manga is fucking good.
Anonymous Sat 26/04/2025 4:57:45 AM 27 days ago MER No. 658
some stuff I have enjoyed to the point of finish them:
Boys on the Run
The Mermaid Princess's Guilty Meal
Rokudō no Akujo-tachi
Spider-Man / Itsuwari no Aka

>>86
Mada Ikiteru

See a cat, post a cat. Anonymous Mon 21/04/2025 10:28:03 PM 1 month ago MER No. 652
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took too long for me to make this thread
Title says everything. While you are watchig anime or reading manga, and you see a cat, post a screenshot. As a bonus, based on the artwork, you can guess the genre of the anime or manga. A rough, realistic looking cat might be from a horror manga, a silly, more cartoonish looking cat might be from a comedy, or the exact opposite! Pic related is Kuroneko-sama from Trigun.

VN thread ? Anonymous Sat 19/04/2025 1:39:26 PM 1 month ago MER No. 626
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Not sure if there already is a thread for visual novels or if that's more of a /b/ topic and an /a/ one but who cares 。Sue me !

Guess all I'm looking for is some comfy friends to talk about vns with 。Recently just finished my first run on Clannad 。

What's your favourite VN?
What VN have you most recently finished/currently playing?
Any funny screenshots/memes from your favourite vn?

Wifeposting is always appreciated too.

Picrel is current and eternal wife.
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Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 8:29:01 AM 1 month ago MER No. 641
>>633

I'll bee honest, I've not heart of hotel dusk or prof. layton before. Trauma centre sounds very interesting, I'll have to check that one out too, I have a list of about 30 I need to download lol

Have you found any copies so far? I would've thought ebay would have some. Or at least there should be some obscure JP media website that has some for sale. Best of luck with searching anon!
Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 11:34:12 PM 1 month ago MER No. 642
>>641
There's an interesting japan only ds release of Higurashi that i heard was pretty good. (might be an english fan translation out there, who knows) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney is also apparently good and i want to play it

Now back to finding copies, back when i checked the game was like 50 bucks but lo and behold the price was like 20 which isn't bad considering thats the price i payed for The World Ends With You DS, Also there's a wii port that was enhanced so actually there might be a higher chance of me getting a copy then i previously thought lol.
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If anyone wants to play some untranslated visual novels and does not want to learn Japanese here's some updated tools: https://github.com/HIllya51/LunaTranslator
LunaTranslator is very customizable and already has its own custom text hook that even allows you to select whether to include the speaker (if you can find the right game hook that is). Also has offline LLM support and here's a really good offline model I found that you could run with KoboldCPP: https://huggingface.co/Casual-Autopsy/vntl-llama3-8b-v2-imatrix-gguf
Anonymous Mon 21/04/2025 3:24:45 AM 1 month ago MER No. 646
>>645
What's fun with the LLM is that you could for example go to the VNDB page and get all a list of all the characters and then tell the LLM in a custom system prompt who they are so you'd get more accurate translations.
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>>645

Ahhh . . you're such a lifesaver ! I've been looking all over for a good translator . I'll also look into those DS games as I've been feeling the need to root out my old one from the attic .

Thank you fren ! ^-^

Anime Girls: A Study Anonymous Fri 01/11/2024 4:10:00 AM 6 months ago MER No. 507
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When I see an anime girl or woman it is not like I am seeing a human girl or woman.
If I saw an anime girl in front of me there wouldn't be any contradiction in it. It would not be very unexpected. I've seen these things depicted incredibly often, so it makes sense. There would be no doubt or speculation of insanity. I would not flinch from the hand of an anime girl near my face.
When I see an anime girl I want to grab a potato peeler and run it all over her. I imagine it would reveal something like a mannequin beneath. Without the skin it would be cold, motionless, without character. I would peel the skin from her face, I would peel off her eyes, but beneath there would be no socket. Only a smoothness. If I held in my hand the scrap of skin that held her eye I might see it blinking. This is the sense that I have, my intuition into the nature of a physical anime girl.
Anime women, do they speak? Or are they simply understood? They are heard in, at all times, at least/most two voices. At least two when they are known, at most two when they are beloved. This is another impression of mine, except this time I call it conviction.
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Anonymous Tue 10/12/2024 5:43:08 PM 5 months ago MER No. 558
>>557
i hope this isn't too off topic
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zZsFQPdU2dw [Play]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=brF1zVXG5_0 [Play]
but i was watching these the other day, and when i heard "disney" i thought maybe they where just making false connections or something bug i guess now you mention it the influences are undeniable.

another thing that may be offtopic is a subgenre of (what i would consider to be) art, anime women in real locations, rundown or otherwise, pic related.
Anonymous Sat 01/02/2025 2:18:11 PM 3 months ago MER No. 587
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>>558
I've a whole folder of these of Lain (101 images). It's from a torrent of assorted Lain content but it's been a few years. Now I can't remember where I got it from. The name of the folder is "d1nzys Lainspotting."
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>>587
Found these while browsing the net, they give off some type of feeling to me, is it perhaps nostalga?
Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 2:59:05 AM 1 month ago MER No. 637
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>>509
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this whole line of thinking can be resolved with one image:

I did a cursory study on anime girls and all I found is they're designed after cats. Look up cat face theory.
Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 3:17:13 AM 1 month ago MER No. 639
>>637
It only adds to the feeling of unreality, and a type of cuteness mixed with depth.

TRIGUN Anonymous Fri 06/12/2024 5:28:36 AM 5 months ago MER No. 543
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This thread is for the anime and manga trigun.
We had a thread on old 22 and i think we should have another one. I missed out on the old /mmc/ watch and review, Recently i was reminded of the anime so i'm personally going to check it out. I don't care about spoilers so talk freely on what you enjoy about the story, art and any trivia or fun facts you know.
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Anonymous Mon 09/12/2024 1:22:36 PM 5 months ago MER No. 556
>>555
To expand on my thoughts about the Nebraska fight, I believe it's hugely improved by having a good amount of buildup in my eyes.
Up until that point in the show, a viewer could excuse the fact that Vash doesn't kill out of a purposeful choice that is a core character trait of his; it is a "kids show" after all. It played on television aimed at younger boys in Japan and is catering to that audience.
The viewer could also be excused for assuming that Vash was just going to be silly and stupid for the entire show as well. He's only serious a few times in episodes 3 and 4 and otherwise acts like a complete retard-- admittedly it's something I dislike about those episodes but it's an intentional misdirection. Vash himself is a very serious character but he pretends not to be in order to protect the people around him. Episode 5 makes it very clear that while he might be "happy-go-lucky", he takes his responsibilities and capabilities deathly seriously.

Alongside the fact that it's not made extremely clear until that moment that Vash refuses to kill on purpose, it's an extremely cool fight that shows just how deep and how ironclad his beliefs are.
Cool moments like that that put on display a character's true nature deserve some buildup, and I think that having an episode or two before that moment would have been perfectly serviceable. It gives the viewer time to really learn and understand the character dynamics in a deeper way than the manga offered. Even all the way to Maximum 34, where I'm at, the Insurance Girls don't feel AT ALL as developed here as they are in the manga. They're important yes, but they don't feel as personal nor' do they feel like they're part of the "main cast". Once again; it's a flaw of the pacing.

4 episodes before the Nebraska fight is too much in my opinion but I've already stated pretty clearly in my previous posts that only the first two are "questionable" in their quality. Episodes 3 and 4 are directly ripped from the manga and 99% of the second half of the show is also ripped from the manga as well. Different, random parts of it are changed but the primary concepts are kept intact.
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I finished the manga last night. I'm sort of mixed on it. Expect a shitload of spoilers ahead so DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED BOTH THE SHOW AND THE MANGA.

I LOVE the art. I think the art rivals legendary mangas like Berserk on a regular basis. There's a shitload of Akira inspiration which means there's a lot of extremely high detail scenes of buildings getting destroyed and everything looks fucking amazing. I wish I took more screenshots because the sheer volume and quality of all of the two-page-spreads was fucking shocking and I want to show them off. The art alone is worth reading the manga, and it NEVER slows down or stops being good.
Unfortunately due to the extremely small panels this leads to a struggle to understand what's happening in certain scenes, and sometimes pages required a re-read from me because I just wasn't following the actions of the characters. Alongside that, the speech bubbles are oftentimes not pointed at any particular character which means that a lot of the time you have to use context clues to even have a chance to figure out who's speaking. Even then, sometimes I was just forced to guess because there was just dialog in bubbles and nothing else.
I feel like if the panels were bigger and the speech bubbles were handled better, the manga would be MUCH more readable. The lack of tails in particular made it a super bad chore to read at times.

The story is extremely good as well. I still feel like the anime handled the plot with much more grace and elegance, removing a lot of superfluous details and things that aren't exactly "necessary" to the experience while still maintaining the themes, messages, and core concepts of the plot. It ties everything together better, there's nothing stupid happening, nothing. It's nice, concise, and gets the job done.
However, the manga provides a much more "full" experience and includes a LOT of things and details that flesh out the characters and world much more. Despite that, I still consider them almost equal.

Wolfwood's arc is much more well done in the manga and I actually cried when he died, which is the first time ANY manga or comic has ever welled up any kind of emotion in me. I wasn't really a fan of Livio/ Razlo at first and I still think it's kind of... ehhhh in my eyes but I think that character was handled very well overall, and I liked how his story ended.

There's a lot of stuff in the manga that's kind of stupid. The whole "Wolfwood is actually several years younger than he appears to be" thing is kind of... meh? It's silly, unnecessary, and it doesn't fit his character in the slightest, but this plot point is used to such emotional effectiveness I can't help but feel like it deserves a pass.
Wolfwood and The Eyes of Michael all being basically superhuman teenagers that drink super-mega-ultra-giganigga-retard-powerful healing potions that make them so durable they can basically get shot as much as they want without dying is also fucking silly and retarded. It feels like some bullshit the author came up with to excuse Wolfwood getting the absolute shit rocked out of him in almost every fight and still surviving. I would have much preferred if the healing potions were something unique to Wolfwood, and that's what made him special in comparison to all of his peers.
I also think that the scene where Vash learns that Wolfwood is a Gung-Ho Gun was cut extremely short and it should have had more impact. It could have and should have been done in an extremely different order in order to bring more weight and context to Wolfwood's final scenes.
It's such a great idea for a perfectly good reveal that would be unfathomably amazing to read that felt like it was done as an "oh yeah there's this too" moment because the author literally forgot about it.

The biggest problem I have with the manga however is the ending; which was kind of a stinker all things considered. I don't like the "rest of humanity" showing up last second, because it feels like the stakes were just sort of fucked with for no reason, and the story wouldn't ACTUALLY be changed if that entire plot beat was removed entirely.
Not only that, but the asspull reveal that the rest of humanity has ALREADY SETTLED on other planets and that No Man's Land is just a backwater shithole that nobody really cares about made the whole experience just lame as shit. Not only that, but apparently Plants turning into basically normal people with magic powers is something that has already been extensively researched and figured out is ???????

Both of those things in combination with the setup of the ending being sort of stupid overall lead to a kind of weak baby fart experience that was only upheld by the sheer excitement and weight of Vash's personal ending. The stakes were fucking pummeled into the ground beyond comprehension when both of those things came to light and it almost retroactively ruined the entire manga for me-- fortunately it's extremely easy to ignore.

All of that being said, I still very much enjoyed the manga and it's going into my "recommend-to-everybody-I-meet" list but I think that the show is a much easier and more 'clean' viewing experience. Shit started to drag on at the end because the final battle is literally like two whole goddamn books which is kind of silly too.
Anonymous Thu 06/02/2025 5:21:00 AM 3 months ago MER No. 591
>>545
Started reading the manga because its faster to read something, and it's a pain in the ass to watch anime at an inconvenient time. Liked the opening of the manga a bit better, kinda more funny. Also some of the diffrence in art style tripped me up a tiny bit bit but it's all good.
Anonymous Fri 21/02/2025 4:06:53 AM 3 months ago MER No. 593
>>591
I just finished trigun, I think i agree with the whole "hard to make sense of what's going on" in some of the action sequences, i like how everything got darker, and more bizarre as the series continued, i mean there's major changes made between trigun and maximum and it was pretty good. I wish i took more screenshots because most of the panels are actual art. There are so many cool sequences.
Anonymous Sun 20/04/2025 2:36:20 AM 1 month ago MER No. 634
I probably should go back to take screenshots but it seemed like the author at points played with western art styles, even borrowing from people like mike magnola, what i mean is that he was inking in a very specific way that stood out to me.

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