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I think it's important that the resolution of SEL comes with Lain talking to a couple consisting of a teacher and alice, now a teacher-in-training. Modern homes and the modern family are alienated from reality, but the love of a schoolfriend or the genuine care of a good teacher still offers salvation.

Let's all love Lain

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for some reason that flew over my head, holy shit. thats a good take.

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http://project.cyberpunk.ru/lib/cyberia/
One of the book that was used in devlopment is availible online, via text or audio both of which i have linked.
Also if you haven't watch the anime Cyberia Café & Club is a location Lain visits.

Here are more influences on lain, as cited from the creators.
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Collective unconscious is used storywise although i don't know which is the best work to cite on the matter.
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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRgKVQWFBrWRNPQneIadvjCzU-7KgO3nx

https://books.google.com/books?id=_NbHNj7KJecC&pg=PA114#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://archive.org/details/as-we-may-think

https://archive.org/details/programming-the-huma...-by-john-c.-lilly-z-lib.org/mode/1up

https://archive.org/details/neurologic-transmitted-by-joanna-and-timothy-leary/Neurologic-TransmittedByJoannaAndTimothyLearyCorrectRotation/mode/1up

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Did anyone watch the TV show that aired in japan? It was somewhat lighter then the movie and the manga but still pretty funny.

The anime is crude and irreverent, but honestly, the OVA, as a metaphorical grieving of the author's suicide, is truly notable in that regard.
It'd be kind of hard to acknowledge the series as a whole without bringing it up. The series seemed short-lived anyways... It's all just really unfortunate and depressing so I can't watch any nekojiru stuff without that being in the back of my mind.

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Have you been paying your monthly fees to the NHK? Yes, this is similar to not paying your TV license in the UK.

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I really hate how awful some of the episodes were 100 episodes in it felt like everything had become completely static in the sense that you'd basically see one cookie-cutter episode after another where nothing of interest happens you'd see the same background, same shots just with mouth movements changed which honestly it felt unwatchable. I think the Nagasawa house burning down episodes were absolutely unwatchable, cringe you could even say, the bad type, that made me quit watching for two months at least. Seriously what were they thinking? Kind of glad I got to episode 121 which finally felt like the dynamic slice of life again that I fell in love with.
This episode I particularly loved the shots of the town that they show that Maruko-chan goes to explore to because she wanted to take a solo trip somewhere nearby and meet a kind stranger.

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I spent an hour looking for this god damn ED which isn't available basically fucking anywhere (most likely due to copyright strikes) only a shitty low quality nicovideo reupload. I finally found it by going to Indonesian Youtube and manually finding the episodes where it aired. You might notice the characters are drawn differently it's because of the awful style they went to for season 2 of the series (which still makes me wanna puke when looking at).
The song is called "Arara's Spell" and apparently this year Momoko Sakura's VA (Tarako) died and there was a special aired (https://nyaa.si/view/1805629) where this song was used to close her last performance (March 24, 2024). This ED ran from episode 481 (July 4, 2004) to episode 850 (March 25, 2012) and was renewed in 2010.

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>>552
I actually disagree. I think that the pacing of the manga is pretty bad and the fact that it starts at the Nebraska fight doesn't give enough buildup or impact to that event. Even though the anime starts off kind of weak I think that those sorts of episodes are important because they can create natural intrigue by sheer virtue of the fact that until then you haven't really seen Vash do anything that crazy. It's slower and more subtle, allowing the viewer plenty of time to think about and appreciate the way that Vash approaches problems that he solves before getting to the meat of the experience. It's foreplay. It also helps to establish the characters and formula of the show in a more long-term format, to help build up to the moment that it's broken in the later episodes.
Also, I don't think that the show is actually trying to convince the viewer that Vash isn't Vash. I think Merryl not believing that he's Vash and being in denial about it all is mostly nice flavor to add to the experience, building Vash up as this mythical figure in your mind while in the process of witnessing just how normal he really is.

The pacing problems with the manga don't just start and end at the beginning though. A lot of crazy cool reveals and "mysteries" that the show sets up for its second half are revealed almost instantaneously in the manga and it feels like a baby fart in comparison. A lot of cool things about Vash aren't treated like they're mysteries at all which I don't like, because the weight of who he is and the responsibility he carries is heavy, but it's treated just as a "yeah so what?" kind of thing in the manga, which is lame as all Hell. The show revealing these things in a slower, more spread-out manner gives the viewer time to speculate, theorize, and come up with their own ideas for certain things, which is more fun than just having the mystery spoiled for you right at the start. There are a lot of "what the fuck was that?" moments that don't get explained until much later, giving the viewer a much more satisfying experience, because past mysteries can be solved with new information that they learn through implication and suggestion in future episodes.

Wolfwood's introduction for example is a whole episode-- it's a filler episode yes, but there's a lot of cool moments in it that build up a mystery around both him and Vash. A lot of "that's kind of weird" moments that don't get an explanation until an actual reveal later. These sorts of things give stories more depth to the moment-to-moment experience, and keep the viewer engaged and wondering about the world and characters. It's better pacing.

Same thing with the Legato reveal as well-- Legato showing up in the manga is a cool moment but the fact that it just kind of happens is lame. The show hides its cards better by waiting longer to reveal Legato and display what the story is really about in full-force. It lulls you into a false sense of security because up until that point the show has been pretty happy-go-lucky and low-stakes. It all just happens too fast in the manga, and the moments never get any opportunities to breathe.

>>553
I believe your familiarity with the anime has led to a slight bias towards it. Just because the anime tries to create a different idea of what Trigun should be doesn't mean that it is the right idea. The Nebraska fight doesn't need buildup; in my opinion, it's a great mood setter, similar to the first episode of Cowboy Bebop. It puts you right into a great action scene that excellently introduces the most important characters in a quick manner. 
I don't think stretching out a character introduction for 5 episodes is a good idea, especially because none of the information that is shared in the first 5 episodes is at all necessary. The show could just have started at episode 5, and basically nothing of value would be lost; I wouldn't consider that subtle, slow-paced writing. I'd just consider it useless filler. 

Generally, when writing an action movie or show, it is key that you open with a set piece that swiftly introduces the main characters and makes you understand their basic traits before building on them in later episodes. The manga writer knew this and the Nebraska fight is clearly written to be exactly that. Even if the Trigun anime was successful in doing what you state it does, it would still be doing it ass backwards.

Now, granted, I have not completed the manga yet. So I cannot comment on the later points you make. All I can say is that I like the way it opens way better than the anime and the general pacing so far as well. Currently just finished the Prodigal Son story in the manga. I can give the anime credit in that when it does adapt the manga, it doesn't majorly change anything. You could definitely make a fan edit that fixes some of the issues.

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>>554
I've already shared my opinion that the earliest episodes of Trigun are some of the weakest and the show would objectively be better off if you cut the first two or so out, but I think that episode 3 is genuinely good and episode 4 is a direct 1:1 adaptation of something that happens in the manga. The problem is that episodes 3 and 4 don't really have a good place in the plot nor' do they have any significance to later characters so they're best suited for the beginning, but neither of those episodes nor' episode 5 are really good for getting the proper gist of the characters.

When the manga opened with the events of episode 5 I was somewhat confused because things were extremely hastily explained and it felt like the author was trying to rush things, which is my biggest problem with the manga in general: the paneling is awful and it makes the events feel too fast, and it makes it too hard to understand what's happening.

I just finished Maximum 33 of the manga series, and while I'm certainly enjoying the experience a lot, I simply cannot understand what is happening or what the author is trying to convey in half of the panels. I LOVE the art style, and the page spreads are absolutely breathtaking, but in average fashion I simply cannot grasp what things are supposed to be. Not only that, but the vagueness of dialogue boxes and who's speaking them (speech bubbles not having directions pointing to whomever is speaking, or extremely vague arrows), as well as the fact that the manga switches between the past, future, present, dream sequences and schizo moments extremely quickly and on a very regular basis.

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There was a whole sequence in which the Hornfreak uses his frequencies to blow up something that was in the sky during a big villain moment. Apparently this was a betrayal of one of the Gung-Ho Guns, but nowhere in any previous panels or chapters did I see one of the Guns using some kind of flying machine? Zazie the Beast was using bugs to spy on people previously, and it was implied and somewhat shown that he was controlling a Sandworm off in the background, but the Sandworm doesn't fly and it's very clearly something artificial that Hornfreak destroyed.
So... what was it? I don't know. I've reread the section and examined all of the panels and as far as I can tell he just blows up... "something" that affects Zazie, and counts as a serious betrayal.
Maybe I'm just going insane, but it's a really cool and badass moment that was wasted because I just cannot understand what is happening half of the time.

Characters like Wolfwood just kind of show up and the fact that he's suspicious and mysterious is literally shoved in your face the same fucking book you meet him in, which really dampens a lot of his cool scenes and moments later because the fact that he is suspicious isn't treated like something the reader should wonder about. There's no hints or foreshadowing, there's no clues to find or questions to answer-- it just sort of happens.
The same could be said for a LOT of the mysteries that the anime presents. It's more straightforward, but I like being able to wonder and ask questions about the media I'm consuming as I'm consuming it. The manga showing you all of its cards the second it gets them isn't good writing.

This means that moments lose impact, lines lose weight, scenes become somewhat empty. It becomes too easy to sort of glaze over the blur of movement lines and random incoherent shapes and objects during some sort of fight scene and lose track of what's actually happening. It's a flaw of the paneling and the sheer detail in extremely small panels, as well as the fact that it's in black-and-white and when everything becomes wooshy motion lines, it gets hard to follow stuff.

All of this paired with the already breakneck pace of the manga makes it so that there's no real intrigue or mystery or anything of the sort. Sure, I can't tell what's happening, but not in the good way. This is something that the anime fixes for the most part, as the fact that there are episodes that serve to worldbuild and expand on character traits, backstories, etc. means that it's a lot easier to follow the story when things start to get really thick.
Is the manga bad? Absolutely not, and I think it has a really healthy relationship with the show, as they both have reasons to watch/ read them separately, as well as part of the same "franchise" so-to-speak. The manga is certainly more in-depth and is hugely more mature, gory, and vicious, but it's hard to follow a lot of the time and I think there are a lot of things that the anime does better, narrative-wise.

>>555
To expand on my thoughts about the Nebraska fight, I believe it's hugely improved by having a good amount of buildup in my eyes.
Up until that point in the show, a viewer could excuse the fact that Vash doesn't kill out of a purposeful choice that is a core character trait of his; it is a "kids show" after all. It played on television aimed at younger boys in Japan and is catering to that audience.
The viewer could also be excused for assuming that Vash was just going to be silly and stupid for the entire show as well. He's only serious a few times in episodes 3 and 4 and otherwise acts like a complete retard-- admittedly it's something I dislike about those episodes but it's an intentional misdirection. Vash himself is a very serious character but he pretends not to be in order to protect the people around him. Episode 5 makes it very clear that while he might be "happy-go-lucky", he takes his responsibilities and capabilities deathly seriously.

Alongside the fact that it's not made extremely clear until that moment that Vash refuses to kill on purpose, it's an extremely cool fight that shows just how deep and how ironclad his beliefs are.
Cool moments like that that put on display a character's true nature deserve some buildup, and I think that having an episode or two before that moment would have been perfectly serviceable. It gives the viewer time to really learn and understand the character dynamics in a deeper way than the manga offered. Even all the way to Maximum 34, where I'm at, the Insurance Girls don't feel AT ALL as developed here as they are in the manga. They're important yes, but they don't feel as personal nor' do they feel like they're part of the "main cast". Once again; it's a flaw of the pacing.

4 episodes before the Nebraska fight is too much in my opinion but I've already stated pretty clearly in my previous posts that only the first two are "questionable" in their quality. Episodes 3 and 4 are directly ripped from the manga and 99% of the second half of the show is also ripped from the manga as well. Different, random parts of it are changed but the primary concepts are kept intact.

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I finished the manga last night. I'm sort of mixed on it. Expect a shitload of spoilers ahead so DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED BOTH THE SHOW AND THE MANGA.

I LOVE the art. I think the art rivals legendary mangas like Berserk on a regular basis. There's a shitload of Akira inspiration which means there's a lot of extremely high detail scenes of buildings getting destroyed and everything looks fucking amazing. I wish I took more screenshots because the sheer volume and quality of all of the two-page-spreads was fucking shocking and I want to show them off. The art alone is worth reading the manga, and it NEVER slows down or stops being good.
Unfortunately due to the extremely small panels this leads to a struggle to understand what's happening in certain scenes, and sometimes pages required a re-read from me because I just wasn't following the actions of the characters. Alongside that, the speech bubbles are oftentimes not pointed at any particular character which means that a lot of the time you have to use context clues to even have a chance to figure out who's speaking. Even then, sometimes I was just forced to guess because there was just dialog in bubbles and nothing else.
I feel like if the panels were bigger and the speech bubbles were handled better, the manga would be MUCH more readable. The lack of tails in particular made it a super bad chore to read at times.

The story is extremely good as well. I still feel like the anime handled the plot with much more grace and elegance, removing a lot of superfluous details and things that aren't exactly "necessary" to the experience while still maintaining the themes, messages, and core concepts of the plot. It ties everything together better, there's nothing stupid happening, nothing. It's nice, concise, and gets the job done.
However, the manga provides a much more "full" experience and includes a LOT of things and details that flesh out the characters and world much more. Despite that, I still consider them almost equal.

Wolfwood's arc is much more well done in the manga and I actually cried when he died, which is the first time ANY manga or comic has ever welled up any kind of emotion in me. I wasn't really a fan of Livio/ Razlo at first and I still think it's kind of... ehhhh in my eyes but I think that character was handled very well overall, and I liked how his story ended.

There's a lot of stuff in the manga that's kind of stupid. The whole "Wolfwood is actually several years younger than he appears to be" thing is kind of... meh? It's silly, unnecessary, and it doesn't fit his character in the slightest, but this plot point is used to such emotional effectiveness I can't help but feel like it deserves a pass.
Wolfwood and The Eyes of Michael all being basically superhuman teenagers that drink super-mega-ultra-giganigga-retard-powerful healing potions that make them so durable they can basically get shot as much as they want without dying is also fucking silly and retarded. It feels like some bullshit the author came up with to excuse Wolfwood getting the absolute shit rocked out of him in almost every fight and still surviving. I would have much preferred if the healing potions were something unique to Wolfwood, and that's what made him special in comparison to all of his peers.
I also think that the scene where Vash learns that Wolfwood is a Gung-Ho Gun was cut extremely short and it should have had more impact. It could have and should have been done in an extremely different order in order to bring more weight and context to Wolfwood's final scenes.
It's such a great idea for a perfectly good reveal that would be unfathomably amazing to read that felt like it was done as an "oh yeah there's this too" moment because the author literally forgot about it.

The biggest problem I have with the manga however is the ending; which was kind of a stinker all things considered. I don't like the "rest of humanity" showing up last second, because it feels like the stakes were just sort of fucked with for no reason, and the story wouldn't ACTUALLY be changed if that entire plot beat was removed entirely.
Not only that, but the asspull reveal that the rest of humanity has ALREADY SETTLED on other planets and that No Man's Land is just a backwater shithole that nobody really cares about made the whole experience just lame as shit. Not only that, but apparently Plants turning into basically normal people with magic powers is something that has already been extensively researched and figured out is ???????

Both of those things in combination with the setup of the ending being sort of stupid overall lead to a kind of weak baby fart experience that was only upheld by the sheer excitement and weight of Vash's personal ending. The stakes were fucking pummeled into the ground beyond comprehension when both of those things came to light and it almost retroactively ruined the entire manga for me-- fortunately it's extremely easy to ignore.

All of that being said, I still very much enjoyed the manga and it's going into my "recommend-to-everybody-I-meet" list but I think that the show is a much easier and more 'clean' viewing experience. Shit started to drag on at the end because the final battle is literally like two whole goddamn books which is kind of silly too.

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When I use the hand of an anime girl to twist my fingers from their sockets, I do not feel pain. When I use the teeth of an anime girl to puncture my flesh where tendons draw taut, I do not bleed. The damage is never undone.
Is it a mistake to love an anime woman? This is a question I leave open. To do otherwise is too terrifying for me to think about. I beg you, this is a question I do not want closed. It is not something to strive towards. Most fortunately it is a futile question. In the first place it is impossible to love an anime woman. This is not because they do not exist. It is perfectly simple to love something that does not exist. I would name that among the most common species of love.
It's my hypothesis that an anime girl is one of two things. The first, an angelic being. The second, something that is understood through the same required terms as angelic beings. The anime girl DOESN'T speak, to answer an earlier question. To answer another, it IS understood, and ONLY understood. It is the prerogative of these things to be understood, or extend an appearance of something that is understood.

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If I were to pull an anime girl from the heavens with my own hand, would I feel anything towards it? Could I crumple it up and place it in a bin? If I did, could I be confident it would stay there? Years later, would I remember that moonless night, the feeling of walking unseen through damp air, and would I hear beyond hearing that rustling by my side? Open questions.
Is an anime girl capable of Evil with a capital E? Instinct tells me no. Deduction also tells me no: angelic beings and things that can be interchanged with them are not capable of Evil with a capital E. Rocks aren't capable of Evil with a capital E either, nor is the cosmic vacuum. Nor is humankind, despite what it may on occasion wish. This means anime girls, if not solely angelic beings, may be constituted entirely or partially by stone, vacuum, human, or a combination of some or all of these.
Is an anime girl capable of Good with a capital G?
No.
Can they be blamed for anything? Open question.

>>507
Uncanny valley would be an understatement, to discribe the visual genre. I also find the pairing of realism and cartooning very interesting. Like the borders of reality are breaking down and what's left is an indescribable blur. Large eyes tend to give a psychological reaction of "cute" usually done so that instead of getting killed, the predator would actually protect the prey. Now tie that with a fictional cartoon but give a decently realistic but still cel shaded body with a realistic backdrop and sometimes realistic clothing and what do you get? certianly not something of this world. I think it really gives psychological horror manga/anime a nice boost

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>>510
Uncanny valley, yes. They're presented most typically as an abstraction of the human form, yet they look nothing like a human or anything else that exists. In the beginning of anime, I'm thinking Osamu Tezuka (Astroboy, Kimba) or even earlier with influences like Disney, large eyes link to neoteny or prey. That is only how it started, or maybe just when it started to be recognized. Is that still why these things have large eyes, small noses, smoothness, and symmetry?
I've the impression that an anime girl is something that emerged, not something that was born. Put your ear to its bosom. Turn your ear to something like a heartbeat. It's an echo. Of what? Open question. This is its coveted deception, and the most apparent thing about it. Obvious, like daylight.
What comes next? Open question. Can anime woman come from anime woman? Not without considerable help. Can an anime girl develop from one state into another? Yes, but under what influence? The latter question reopens the former.
I would not call an anime girl shallow or hollow. To the contrary, there is an obscurity about it that perseveres against all dissection. There is also a fractal quality to its organism that ensnares the observer. This is the warp, and this is the weft, and there is the shimmering weave of simulacrum I find so undeniable.
How does this apply across time? Is there any future for anime women? An end? Was there a past for them? A beginning? Can they be used to store memory? Open questions, all. Yet, I've my suspicions.
If the body of an anime girl was made to move, I would hear the faintest sound. It would be the tearing of silk. If you've ever separated the skin of a bird to place spices underneath, you'll know what I mean. That tearing around your fingers is the motion of an anime girl's body.

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>>557
i hope this isn't too off topic
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but i was watching these the other day, and when i heard "disney" i thought maybe they where just making false connections or something bug i guess now you mention it the influences are undeniable.

another thing that may be offtopic is a subgenre of (what i would consider to be) art, anime women in real locations, rundown or otherwise, pic related.

i can't remember if this was discussed in the actual show, but something interesting i learned from the origins manga is that guntank was a prototype of guncannon, and guncannon led to the development of the rx-78-2. wasn't simultaneous.
hayato also was wary of amuro's father and the screwy behaviour of the earthfeds on side 7. also it was obscured in the show but in the origins manga locations are explicitly mentioned, like garma has a base in fucking hollywood. also new yark = new york.
something i need to check out is the first episode and compare it to the manga, because i thought amuro was screwing around on the computer, and he was struggling with the manual while combatting the zakus. in the manga he hacked into his dads research about the rx-78-2 and he had no manual and combatting the zakus was kind of by memory.

go ahead and laugh at me since i haven't watched the anime in ages and i might get things wrong. also i'm personally going to watch stuff soon in chronological order, its a bucket list thing. also i missed out on watching zz and zeta gundam with you guys and i have been itching to watch them ever since.
now i will talk about the trilogy movies. on one hand an effort was made to have it conform to the real robot genre, which is great. no more g-part upgrade nonsense which was personally fucking tiresome to watch. on the other hand things got cut which in my opinion is retarded like why remove the black tri-stars? why cut doans island? if the quality was so fucking bad why not cut all the other sequences that sometimes had more low quality then the two abformentioned episodes? i could be wrong with this but also it felt like it was a freak of the week situation wih zeon's mobile suit, that they came up with stuff to combat the rx-78-2 instead of being pre existing weapons of war, most of them don't make a second appearance. only later in other shows they show previously introduced mobile suits in battle. also something that came to mind recently lol was the similarities of gundam and battlestar galactica. both are kind of survival stories of a rag tag group vs an oppresive force, they both have space magic by the evolution of mankind in space leading to psionic powers, also there is a civilian class in thd lower decks who are taking refuge and are a pain in the ass. commander cains outfit reminds me of chars uniform, but the similarities stop there.

requim for vengance is offputting as fuck. i don't understand the perspective of the writers and bandai amd what their intentions and design choices. one of the characters is a straight up tumblr art hoe alt-girl, tatted up with peircings and i wasn't exactly expecting to see that in a japanese production. the visuals are weird, like they wanted to go realistic where you can see pores on skin but at the same time have graphics similar to halo 3 /2008 dead space. (also like the fucking fox engine if you know what i mean) i dont know if they used mocap or whatever animation but its off as fuck, like if they didn't bother even syncing the mouths and motion to the audio
the story allegedly takes place in 0079 early on but i thought amuros gundam was the first and only prototype and they couldnt even mass produce that shit (even shit like the guncannon) till the end of the war and yet the gundam EX is another prototype thats unstoppable.
the story is fine i guess and the protag is also fine i guess and she's not a mary sue dispite being a newtype. its the same newtype fuckery amuro had early on that made him look like he was insane instead of being like space magic. mech fights are cool i guess and the gundam EX is potrayed as a monster/serial killer and i fucking love that perspective.

>>502
I take it back, actual hot garbage and not worth watching.

>>530
i had all the names of the shows you mentioned in another tab to crosscheck if any of them was in my list of anime and manga to watch and read and once i saw what Midnight Eye Goku was about i knew i had to read it immediately. the (cybernetic) private eye is a fantastic concept to use (like "do androids dream of robotic sheep") and i figured it would be enjoyable.

>>531
That's interesting. What do you think you're going to move on to after you're finished reading/ watching MEG?
For me, I think I'm going to try and seek out something maybe a bit more fantasy-oriented, because almost everything mentioned ITT is science fiction in some sense of the word. I've already seen Ninja Scroll and I admittedly don't know too many non-sci-fi retro anime. If you have any recommendations, post them!

>>534
It depends on what you mean by "fantasy" (like sword and sorcery or in general?)
Ushio & Tora comes to mind, Buddy comedy of a demon and a kid (who where supposed to kill eachother) and end up uniting together to fight yokai.

>>534
trigun and vampire hunter d have been on my need to watch list for a while, ninja scroll sounds cool because i really like historical settings. might start with trigun because 25 episodes don't sound as bad to watch vs like two hours of vampire hunter d although i heard there was cool genre mixing involved. might checkout the original manga for trigun because it was the original format and it might be interesting to watch the anime later and spot the diffrences, if any.

>>539
In my opinion, the Trigun anime is better than the manga, because it has better pacing and the process by which the watcher learns more about Vash and the world is much more interesting.
Things that were big mysteries with little hints and foreshadowing placed in the show are just sort of dumped on the reader in the manga without any ceremony and it just felt kind of weird.

I also love Vampire Hunter D, and I think that both of the movies are absolutely spectacular watches with very good and interesting animation and a cool world, but Bloodlust is by far the better of the two and it makes me wish for more.

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Holy fuck Crybaby was such a glorious trainwreck.

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i find it hilarious that getting possesed by a demon somehow gave akira a backbone but he's still moral like refusing to sleep with miki, BUT OH MAN DRIVING REAL FAST IS REALLY HARDCORE. not stabbing BUT PUNCHING A DELIQUENT IS FUCKING REAL SHIT, its like if someone started getting all hyped after ignoring a "do not walk on grass" sign and walking on the grass as a form of sticking it to the man.
>>306
This is what they do to us irl?
>>311
i'm getting mcfarlane vibes like the violator's true form from spawn. also what a bunch of fucking idiots i'm actually glad those drivers crashed.
pic 2/3 is an under rated sequence, i don't know how miki could've survive this one, she was lucky to be saved by the sliding glass door. i thought devilman would've gotten doxed inorder to save her but things kind of worked out.
also interesting how silen's terrified of devilman.
>>313
i was wondering why it took so damn long for amons full form to pop up.
>>314
i thought it was hilarious that akira's arm magically re-attached itself like resident evil village

I've been thinking recently on how it makes zero sense for ryo to somehow survive the slaughter at the underground club. There's a few things that comes to mind that just feel sketchy as fuck to me. Clearly i haven't read the full story yet and i will soon, i mean even akira mentioned how weird it was for ryo to just make it out alive unaltered. I'll see eventually what happends with that plot thread. At least to me it seems like ryo very well could be the hidden antagonist setting up akira to fail for some reason.

>>515
I think the whole scene demonstrated Devil Man's powers and abilities, and I guess Ryo survival is proof ┐that Devilman is powerful.

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>>515
>wars are used to depopulate
real stuff in a manga about demon slaying no less
also with pic two, i just feel like it proves my fucking point with ryo being sketchy as fuck, there is no god damn way a regular ass human can face off against a demon and live and he allegedly forgot what happend afterwards?
>>320
i think it's cool that they are teaming up for once.
>pic 3
this is so fucking cool, the concept alone is great.
>>321
i like the face it's creepy as fuck.

with volume 3 coming to a close i cannot understate how great the art and storytelling is although it seems like things are starting to escalate, which feels way too fast if i'm being honest. i would have liked for the story to last a bit longer.