After finishing stand alone complex i had the urge to read the original manga again, and a few others. Protip, appleseed is out fucking standing holy shit and i've heard it over and over and i just ignored the damn thing. The original ghost in the shell manga is nice but i feel it was focused on the concepts, and as the manga goes on to the sequel it actually peters out.
The original manga is nice although the authors laziness and directors comments is apparant. I thought it was gay that The major had a boyfriend who was no more then a side character that never got mentioned again.
1.5 is nice because you also have other characters who where only barely used in the story, well in 1.5 they really get to shine. It was also pretty neat how SAC used bits and pieces from the manga. Maybe it's just me but i kind how the major behaved the anime, she was more reserved where in the manga she was kind of a bratty teenager, it made no sense for the role she had in section nine, atleast in my eyes. Still like the manga though. I'm curious about the original anime adaption though, i think it had a darker, more artistic tone and i"m curious to see how it handles the source material.

So about appleseed, Every flaw you might see in the ghost in the shell franchise is absent from the appleseed story. Decent character development, perfect amount of exposition, it's all there. Favorite character? Briareos, Appreciate the detail where he's warning Deunan that olympia is a CA, I also like how on the leasure time he's wearing like jeans and a shirt dispite being a large, bulky android, the contrast is really something, like dispite his disfigurment his humanity is still there.

>>562
Did anyone watch the TV show that aired in japan? It was somewhat lighter then the movie and the manga but still pretty funny.

The anime is crude and irreverent, but honestly, the OVA, as a metaphorical grieving of the author's suicide, is truly notable in that regard.
It'd be kind of hard to acknowledge the series as a whole without bringing it up. The series seemed short-lived anyways... It's all just really unfortunate and depressing so I can't watch any nekojiru stuff without that being in the back of my mind.

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found a sound mad of nekojiru there's also a bunch of other mads
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14932364 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30921199 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15797495 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12685741 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6307646 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm325431 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm431923 [Play]
you can also watch a bunch of the episodes with english sub on there
https://www.nicovideo.jp/search/ねこぢる劇場

go ahead and laugh at me since i haven't watched the anime in ages and i might get things wrong. also i'm personally going to watch stuff soon in chronological order, its a bucket list thing. also i missed out on watching zz and zeta gundam with you guys and i have been itching to watch them ever since.
now i will talk about the trilogy movies. on one hand an effort was made to have it conform to the real robot genre, which is great. no more g-part upgrade nonsense which was personally fucking tiresome to watch. on the other hand things got cut which in my opinion is retarded like why remove the black tri-stars? why cut doans island? if the quality was so fucking bad why not cut all the other sequences that sometimes had more low quality then the two abformentioned episodes? i could be wrong with this but also it felt like it was a freak of the week situation wih zeon's mobile suit, that they came up with stuff to combat the rx-78-2 instead of being pre existing weapons of war, most of them don't make a second appearance. only later in other shows they show previously introduced mobile suits in battle. also something that came to mind recently lol was the similarities of gundam and battlestar galactica. both are kind of survival stories of a rag tag group vs an oppresive force, they both have space magic by the evolution of mankind in space leading to psionic powers, also there is a civilian class in thd lower decks who are taking refuge and are a pain in the ass. commander cains outfit reminds me of chars uniform, but the similarities stop there.

requim for vengance is offputting as fuck. i don't understand the perspective of the writers and bandai amd what their intentions and design choices. one of the characters is a straight up tumblr art hoe alt-girl, tatted up with peircings and i wasn't exactly expecting to see that in a japanese production. the visuals are weird, like they wanted to go realistic where you can see pores on skin but at the same time have graphics similar to halo 3 /2008 dead space. (also like the fucking fox engine if you know what i mean) i dont know if they used mocap or whatever animation but its off as fuck, like if they didn't bother even syncing the mouths and motion to the audio
the story allegedly takes place in 0079 early on but i thought amuros gundam was the first and only prototype and they couldnt even mass produce that shit (even shit like the guncannon) till the end of the war and yet the gundam EX is another prototype thats unstoppable.
the story is fine i guess and the protag is also fine i guess and she's not a mary sue dispite being a newtype. its the same newtype fuckery amuro had early on that made him look like he was insane instead of being like space magic. mech fights are cool i guess and the gundam EX is potrayed as a monster/serial killer and i fucking love that perspective.

>>502
I take it back, actual hot garbage and not worth watching.

I was thinking recently on if amuro should have saved the circut his dad made him. I get he was brain damaged but at the same time you have to wonder if it actually could have been something important or useful. Atleast i'm wondering what would have happened if amuro kept it, like if he would have tossed it away on the ship and someone either realised it was junk, but got in inspiration from it or realised outwardly it was junk but in reality it was some next level shit from a retarded genius.

From what i heard they wanted to get Timothée Chalamet in the live action gundam show and honestly i hope not because it sounds retarded as fuck.
I think we're reaching the point where they are really taking the piss with the gundam franchise and i think thats really the last thing they need to do lol.

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My personal favorite maid is Yakui-san. She is a popular maid these days. She's the biggest face in a genre of music called maidcore, where musicians produce music under the name of one of the maids. Her character trait is that she is addicted to OTC pharmaceuticals (Yakuji: Medicine). You will find her constantly fucked up on something and often totally passed out. She spends her life in a haze of delirious illusion. On the bright side, if you're sick, she'll know just what to offer to make you feel better. Just be aware that she'll probably overdo it. I think it's important that she abuses pharmaceuticals: a lot of art shows her as a garden variety stoner. In my mind she doesn't smoke weed or do any cool kid drugs. She just goes to a drug store and fills a shopping cart with whatever she can get without a license and drinks so much Pedialyte and swallows so many antihystamines that she gets high against all logic. That's what her name means, and that's the image I like: she's not a party girl she's an unapologetic mess and I think that's awesome.
Here's Yakui in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QS-Efk2HmQ [Play]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1mIDh7a2d4 [Play]
Here's some of my favorite Yakui maidcore music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qyQCzb0hhs [Play]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0594gQG36kc [Play]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgKxYnTEN5Y [Play]
That last one is the most prolific Yakui the Maid artist, a Russian musician that used to produce music under the name Scythe of Luna. They have strong post-punk influence and it's great music that keeps me coming back, but sometimes I feel like the current scene is getting a little dominated by that sound compared to older stuff which was a lot more eclectic and weird.

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>>571
You should read some of the Japanese articles on Nijiura maids from at.wiki or dic.nico as they elaborate a lot more on the maids than the linked english article as I'm sure if you really like a maid you would want to know their entire origin and not just small excerpts from western articles.
https://dic.pixiv.net/en/a/Nijiura (Pixiv has english articles on them)
https://w.atwiki.jp/2jiwiki/pages/30.html list of maid characters working in Nijiura (Just ctrl + f and write the maids name)
https://w.atwiki.jp/2jiwiki/pages/468.html Article on Yakui-san:
Nicknames: ヤッキー (Yakky) or (ヤクちゃん) Yaku-chan.
A maid who loves medicine. She is the younger sister of ちょうざいさん (Chouzai-san -> "pharmacy" or "dispensing (medication)" (unofficial). She is also very popular overseas.

After getting caught sampling her family’s pharmacy products, she was kicked out of her home. Her knowledge of pharmaceuticals is top-tier, ranging from "happy powder" to experimental clinical drugs. She has access to both legal and illegal supply routes and can even create her own custom formulations. For example, the preservatives used by 死体 (Shitai-san -> dead body) and her peers are homemade by Yakui-san.
Once a month, she is restrained and forced to detox, during which she becomes calm. The handcuffs on her arm are remnants from these sessions, not because she is a criminal (though it is curious, given her involvement in illegal drugs, that she is not treated as a criminal within the threads).
When she is off drugs, she is relatively sensible. However, when she is high, she becomes exceptionally quirky and competent, but if she overdoses even slightly, she becomes completely useless—a highly temperamental state. When high, she can see and hear things others cannot. Due to the drugs, her growth has been stunted, leaving her short in stature. Despite her reckless use of drugs, she strictly avoids using them to manipulate people's emotions.
She is the origin of numerous color-variant derivative maids, including ヘルシィさん (literally Healthy-san) (unofficial).

[Origin of the Name]
Named after the Japanese word for “medicine” (ヤク, yaku -> dope, narcotic, drug)
[Activity on Nijiura]
In the early days, she often wet herself and was recommended by 雪さん (Yuki-san -> Snow) as a legitimate successor. However, this idea was opposed by other teachers in the "Maid Academy" and eventually shelved.
She is a peer of Shitai-san and Dorei-san (どれいさん -> Slave), and together the three are often referred to as the 「不謹慎メイド」 -> “Inappropriate Maids.” Along with ティッシュメイド (literally Tissue Maid), they are considered part of the second graduating class of the Maid Academy.
Yakui-san has been subjected to incidents such as being assaulted by オゾいさん (Ozoi-san -> frightening or dreadful) (unofficial) or celebrating her birthday with くどいさん (Kudoi-san -> chatterbox) due to their shared birth date.
Since her creation, she has consistently maintained a steady level of popularity and has never "fallen into the graveyard" (a metaphor for forgotten characters). Perhaps due to her association with drug-related themes, she is also frequently discussed on 4chan.

Speech:
She refers to her master as → Danna (旦那) or Goshujin (ご主人) both meaning “master.” Her first-person pronoun is → Asshi (あっし) a humble, archaic form of “I”. She ends her sentences with → ~ssu (～ッス).
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/ヤクいさん
"For your health, let’s take lots of medicine, Goshujin! It feels great, ~ssu!"
Overview, Goshujin!
She is one of the Nijiura Maids created on Nijiura. Her defining features include short purple hair, a maid uniform, striped knee-high socks, unhealthy-looking skin, dark circles under her eyes, and unfocused pupils. She is a severe drug addict who always carries capsules and syringes, frequently succumbing to strange hallucinations or experiencing seizures. She speaks in a distinctive manner, often ending her sentences with "~ssu yo."
Due to her strong impact as a character, she is frequently seen on platforms like PIXIV. She forms a trio with two other Nijiura Maids, Shitai-san and Dorei-san.

Additionally, she belongs to the same "yandere" category of Nijiura Maids as other characters, such as:
Ozoi-san, a J-horror-inspired creature.
ヤバいさん (Yabai-san -> dangerous), a gijinka (anthropomorphized) character based on Minerva from The Wicked Eyes Fly to the Full Moon (邪眼は月輪に飛ぶ)

あ、先輩ッスよ！-> "Ah, it’s Senpai, ~ssu!"

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>>572
Also I see that you linked a bunch of youtube videos from Yakui-san so I am wondering if you checked out the nico nico tag of yakui-san? (If you dont have a VPN and are worried of the restrictions put on foreigners on the website do not worry: https://www.vpngate.net/en/howto_softether.aspx make sure it is always on when browsing nico nico or you'll skip out on tons of videos.)
https://www.nicovideo.jp/search/虹裏
https://www.nicovideo.jp/search/ヤクいさん
there's really not a lot for Nijiura maids but its still worth checking out. Try to search for Nijiura maid names individually as they might not be tagged properly but it might also be a case where stuff was directly posted to futaba-channel and so it is kind of lost to time. Maybe its worth to look into Japanese flash archives on archive.org and see if there's any flash videos created with Nijiura maids.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4507762 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1083562 [Play]
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1172932 [Play]
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>>573
Habibi. When I made this thread, I was hopeful that 22chan would be the place that would help me find more about the Nijiura maids. And you have delivered, my own resources drew short. You are the light of my evening sky and for you I would seize the moon and grasp it until the night drew dark as the godless sea.

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There's a few videos of Medoi-san https://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/めどいさん and I really like this particular one which I've seen many years ago from the dic.nico article https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm127956 [Play]
https://dic.pixiv.net/en/a/Medoi-san
https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/めどいさん
https://w.atwiki.jp/2jiwiki/pages/271.html
Medoi-san is a first-generation graduate of the Maid Academy (A fictional academy located in Nijiura Town said to be the alma mater of most Nijiura Maids. Commonly abbreviated as Me-Gaku メ(Maid)学(School)). She is said to be the younger sister of だりぃさん (Darii-san -> Bothersome) and datめどいさん (Dame-Medoi-san -> Useless Medoi) though their sibling relationship is subject to various interpretations.
[Origin of the Character]
Medoi-san originated from a self-drawn illustration of a maid with a tired expression and the caption "Medoi-san" This initial drawing inspired various settings and further character development, solidifying her as a distinct personality. This later became the origin of the "〇〇-i" naming convention for Nijiura Maids.
[Activity on Nijiura]
Medoi-san is considered the origin of the category now referred to as "Nijiura Maids." Without her, the current Nijiura Maids would not exist. She is truly the starting point for all Nijiura Maids (虹メ). (Although there were maid characters before her, Medoi-san was the first whose personality traits were expressed through her name. Additionally, the practice of adding "-san" to names originates from her.) As such, even with the overwhelming number of Nijiura Maids that exist today, she retains an immovable presence, and it can be said that no Nijiura Maid is unaware of her.
As her name and her catchphrase "Medoi" (meaning "bothersome" or "lazy") suggest, she is extremely lazy. In the early days, she would often avoid work and accomplish very little. However, in an effort to avoid trouble, she began to adopt the most efficient methods, and despite her lethargic appearance, she became known as a maid who completes her tasks quickly and reliably.
Because of this, she is considered particularly skilled as a maid, handling tasks like cooking (with a wide variety of recipes), household chores, driving (she holds a gold driver’s license), and even growing her own vegetables..
Over time, as more maids appeared who not only avoided work but even questioned their status as maids, Medoi-san’s reputation for diligence and competence has only continued to grow.

She is also known to be a heavy drinker, and on her birthday, while her other peers were passed out drunk, she was seen drinking one-on-one at a red lantern bar. She is often seen riding a ダブルマッスル (literally "Double Muscle") for shopping and frequently works alongside ちこいさん (Chikoi-san -> tiny)
i'll leave it at that for now since this thread will just turn into translating wiki articles, but if you have access to it translate using ChatGPT but make sure it gives you everything as it is and doesn't try to mess with the TL. Knowing some Japanese will help in spotting mistakes.
>>575
I guess it's kind of interesting to me that there's a lot of documentation on Japanese internet culture on 22chan but we are not really seen as having anything to do with /jp/ by outsiders...? I also think it's really easy to find information on this stuff too but for some reason people fail to go past English search terms into Japanese ones. Most of everything on the Japanese internet is documented through at.wiki, dic.nico, dic.pixiv, and a few personal blog websites, and now with ChatGPT and other transcribe/translation tools like whisper its hard to struggle with translation as much as before.

>>534
It depends on what you mean by "fantasy" (like sword and sorcery or in general?)
Ushio & Tora comes to mind, Buddy comedy of a demon and a kid (who where supposed to kill eachother) and end up uniting together to fight yokai.

>>534
trigun and vampire hunter d have been on my need to watch list for a while, ninja scroll sounds cool because i really like historical settings. might start with trigun because 25 episodes don't sound as bad to watch vs like two hours of vampire hunter d although i heard there was cool genre mixing involved. might checkout the original manga for trigun because it was the original format and it might be interesting to watch the anime later and spot the diffrences, if any.

>>539
In my opinion, the Trigun anime is better than the manga, because it has better pacing and the process by which the watcher learns more about Vash and the world is much more interesting.
Things that were big mysteries with little hints and foreshadowing placed in the show are just sort of dumped on the reader in the manga without any ceremony and it just felt kind of weird.

I also love Vampire Hunter D, and I think that both of the movies are absolutely spectacular watches with very good and interesting animation and a cool world, but Bloodlust is by far the better of the two and it makes me wish for more.

I'm 40 chapters in grappler baki and it's great.
The potrayal of movement and action is realistic, flowing and dynamic and it's incredible. The artstyle is perfect too, i get a retro feeling from it, it reminds me of an anime or manga i must have seen before. The story? They jump into the action with little to no details about the protagonist and it's what i needed. You don't know how many stories i've read where they give a long rambling history of the main character and for baki they did something diffrent. Hell, they introduce the father but they obscure his face and details of his body, and only hint at all the terrible shit he did, turning him into a horrible monster and a legend. I like how batshit moments in the story goes down and instead of taking it ironically they play it straight and pretend everything is normal, they also exaggerate various things and it leave you guessing if that thing is real like "was that move that guy used real?" "is that a real science fact? i need to google this"

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I saw Vampire Hunter D a few weeks ago. The narrative is simple. I'd call it disappointing, but that's thanks to preconceived notions. Fable-like is probably more appropriate. The main theme is kinda neat. The film asserts that the beauty/purpose of life is in its briefness. It keeps this from being trite by offering a protagonist that's been robbed of mortality. The movie slowly reveals his novel solution to this existential plight: he becomes an enforcer of death, hunting down those that try to cheat it (Carmella). He handles the hypocrisy of being immortal by leaning into the idea of radical change, that when the day comes that he succumbs to his corrupt vampire self there will be a hunter to strike him down. In short, he has made himself both a supporter and example of the absolute nature of time. His foil demonstrates a loophole: not everything that lasts forever is evil, namely love. Somehow I fell a little pic related about it though.
The main character has a Parasyte hand that was supremely annoying. His role was to say "woah D you are damn cool but this shit am pretty danger, you are going to die" and then D doesn't say anything and is cool and doesn't die. The nature of the Parasyte hand is never elaborated on. It seems like there are hints about every part of the world of Vampire Hunter D but the hand is literally just there to be a nerd. You could clip out all of its audio and screentime and the movie would be categorically improved. I'm aware that there's a manga that may clear up some confusion regarding worldbuilding but the film is pretty compelling as a standalone window into the home of a storied postapocalypse where remains are strewn through every nook and cranny. Sort of like Tolkien's fantasy, sometimes stuff happens that clearly plays a role in the history of the world but remains temptingly unexplained because it just isn't consequential to the hero's errand. Most of the meat is in the action and scenery, which is not a bad thing.
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I think it's important that the resolution of SEL comes with Lain talking to a couple consisting of a teacher and alice, now a teacher-in-training. Modern homes and the modern family are alienated from reality, but the love of a schoolfriend or the genuine care of a good teacher still offers salvation.

Let's all love Lain

>>397
for some reason that flew over my head, holy shit. thats a good take.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dtJO1V4OqG8 [Play]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dtJO1V4OqG8 [Play]
http://project.cyberpunk.ru/lib/cyberia/
One of the book that was used in devlopment is availible online, via text or audio both of which i have linked.
Also if you haven't watch the anime Cyberia Café & Club is a location Lain visits.

Here are more influences on lain, as cited from the creators.
>>533
Collective unconscious is used storywise although i don't know which is the best work to cite on the matter.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dP3XI4M5cOQ [Play]
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRgKVQWFBrWRNPQneIadvjCzU-7KgO3nx

https://books.google.com/books?id=_NbHNj7KJecC&pg=PA114#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://archive.org/details/as-we-may-think

https://archive.org/details/programming-the-huma...-by-john-c.-lilly-z-lib.org/mode/1up

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i find it hilarious that getting possesed by a demon somehow gave akira a backbone but he's still moral like refusing to sleep with miki, BUT OH MAN DRIVING REAL FAST IS REALLY HARDCORE. not stabbing BUT PUNCHING A DELIQUENT IS FUCKING REAL SHIT, its like if someone started getting all hyped after ignoring a "do not walk on grass" sign and walking on the grass as a form of sticking it to the man.
>>306
This is what they do to us irl?
>>311
i'm getting mcfarlane vibes like the violator's true form from spawn. also what a bunch of fucking idiots i'm actually glad those drivers crashed.
pic 2/3 is an under rated sequence, i don't know how miki could've survive this one, she was lucky to be saved by the sliding glass door. i thought devilman would've gotten doxed inorder to save her but things kind of worked out.
also interesting how silen's terrified of devilman.
>>313
i was wondering why it took so damn long for amons full form to pop up.
>>314
i thought it was hilarious that akira's arm magically re-attached itself like resident evil village

I've been thinking recently on how it makes zero sense for ryo to somehow survive the slaughter at the underground club. There's a few things that comes to mind that just feel sketchy as fuck to me. Clearly i haven't read the full story yet and i will soon, i mean even akira mentioned how weird it was for ryo to just make it out alive unaltered. I'll see eventually what happends with that plot thread. At least to me it seems like ryo very well could be the hidden antagonist setting up akira to fail for some reason.

>>515
I think the whole scene demonstrated Devil Man's powers and abilities, and I guess Ryo survival is proof ┐that Devilman is powerful.

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>>515
>wars are used to depopulate
real stuff in a manga about demon slaying no less
also with pic two, i just feel like it proves my fucking point with ryo being sketchy as fuck, there is no god damn way a regular ass human can face off against a demon and live and he allegedly forgot what happend afterwards?
>>320
i think it's cool that they are teaming up for once.
>pic 3
this is so fucking cool, the concept alone is great.
>>321
i like the face it's creepy as fuck.

with volume 3 coming to a close i cannot understate how great the art and storytelling is although it seems like things are starting to escalate, which feels way too fast if i'm being honest. i would have liked for the story to last a bit longer.

>>435
how is it even possible to be this relaxed

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In azumanga diaoh. The school trip in okinawa (episode 21) where they went scuba diving was very calming to me.

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>>511
It's so... cute!

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Would you go home to Raspberry Heaven?