In this thread, we will discuss the Devilman franchise. A large part of the discussion of this thread will be centered around the original manga from back in the 70's. Before we get into the manga, I would like to discuss the three OVAs for Devilman. Devilman: The Birth was one of the first animes I have ever seen. I am not much of a horror guy, but I enjoyed the suspense that was built up throughout the episode. The craziness kept my interest, and it felt sudden how Ryo's father died. Ryo seems to have something off about him. The party scene was an interesting place to have a battle of demons and Devilman. It is funny in a way, but I was distracted by how awesome the fight was. The Anthem song that played during the fight scene was a good song choice too. The first OVA is worth a watch to this day, in my opinion. Devilman: The Demon Bird is a worthy follow-up to the first OVA. Demon Bird is probably the best entry in the series in terms of action. The fight against Silene was great. I didn't know if Devilman would win or not because they did a good job showing how vicious Silene is. Words can't describe how good the fight was. The final OVA in the series is not canon for a reason. It is hot garbage and is just a gore fest without the impact. The deaths were not memorable except for the girlfriend. I would skip this one.
Throughout October I will be reading the manga from the 70's, and my goal will be one volume every three to four days. I will post the highlights, and I hope people join in on the discussion.
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Holy fuck Crybaby was such a glorious trainwreck.
i find it hilarious that getting possesed by a demon somehow gave akira a backbone but he's still moral like refusing to sleep with miki, BUT OH MAN DRIVING REAL FAST IS REALLY HARDCORE. not stabbing BUT PUNCHING A DELIQUENT IS FUCKING REAL SHIT, its like if someone started getting all hyped after ignoring a "do not walk on grass" sign and walking on the grass as a form of sticking it to the man.
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This is what they do to us irl?
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i'm getting mcfarlane vibes like the violator's true form from spawn. also what a bunch of fucking idiots i'm actually glad those drivers crashed.
pic 2/3 is an under rated sequence, i don't know how miki could've survive this one, she was lucky to be saved by the sliding glass door. i thought devilman would've gotten doxed inorder to save her but things kind of worked out.
also interesting how silen's terrified of devilman.
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i was wondering why it took so damn long for amons full form to pop up.
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i thought it was hilarious that akira's arm magically re-attached itself like resident evil village
I've been thinking recently on how it makes zero sense for ryo to somehow survive the slaughter at the underground club. There's a few things that comes to mind that just feel sketchy as fuck to me. Clearly i haven't read the full story yet and i will soon, i mean even akira mentioned how weird it was for ryo to just make it out alive unaltered. I'll see eventually what happends with that plot thread. At least to me it seems like ryo very well could be the hidden antagonist setting up akira to fail for some reason.
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I think the whole scene demonstrated Devil Man's powers and abilities, and I guess Ryo survival is proof ┐that Devilman is powerful.
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>wars are used to depopulate
real stuff in a manga about demon slaying no less
also with pic two, i just feel like it proves my fucking point with ryo being sketchy as fuck, there is no god damn way a regular ass human can face off against a demon and live and he allegedly forgot what happend afterwards?
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i think it's cool that they are teaming up for once.
>pic 3
this is so fucking cool, the concept alone is great.
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i like the face it's creepy as fuck.
with volume 3 coming to a close i cannot understate how great the art and storytelling is although it seems like things are starting to escalate, which feels way too fast if i'm being honest. i would have liked for the story to last a bit longer.
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Have you ever watched an anime scene that made you feel incredibly relaxed, even triggering an ASMR response? This thread is for sharing those clips. Please include the episode details, timestamp, and context about the scene if possible.
For example, this specific scene is from Ichigo Marshmallow OVA, Episode 2 at 12:00, where Matsuri-chan is reading a children's picture book called ワンワンコロコロ.
I'm making this quick thread while already almost falling asleep, so it's kind of perfect. Although I'm not sure if it meets 22chan's quality standards.1 replies (and 3 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
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how is it even possible to be this relaxed
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZT8lLBJGga8 [Play]
In azumanga diaoh. The school trip in okinawa (episode 21) where they went scuba diving was very calming to me.
Not sure if this would count but Culumon's voice from Digimon Tamers really relaxes me
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I would like to stress this thread is for the discussion of the subtitled version of School Ghost Stories, not the dub.
i originally watched the dub, the problem i had personally was that it felt wrong, sure it was funny but its like looking at a painting that was drawn over.
fun fact, behind satsuki in the opening to the anime is gashadokuro, i remember reading about him for the first time in a storybook for children, although his origins was warped to where it was about a boy fighting him off.
i find it weird that japanese urban legends are appearing all at once like hanako san, kubinashi rider and i find it equally strange that dogfaced man made an appearance, i thought he only harassed drunk salarymen? (although to be fair that might have been the modern verson of the tale that i heard)
i am unsure, perhaps it'll be elaborated on later.
so far episode one reminds me of an old 80's horror sitcom. it was pretty enjoyable to me.
another thing i like is how the voice actors sound their age, unlike the dub. i still find it funny that the cat was possesed and nothing has changed, just typical cat behaviour such as a lust for evil and deep contempt for humanity, as all cats do. the spirits i don"t recognise are amanojaku, and teke-teke. with teke-teke i think they fucked up because they potrayed it as a bald ghost thing but from what i understand from a quick google search she's supposed to look like a schoolgirl cut in half. with hanako i find it funny that momoko would fucking summon hanako which is the LAST THING a sane person would do, its like me walking into a haunted house and summoning bloody mary. i thought it was funny that hanako was friendly.
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>subtitled version of School Ghost Stories
But why? Without the meme dub it's such a boring show.
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Was all the SoL stuff really necessary? It felt like they were desperate to make you empathize with the main crew so they waited until the last episode of the season for shit to go down, ending it with a cheap cliffhanger so you know S2 totally won't be as much of a waste.
I was actually looking forward to this when I watched the prologue last year, but now I'd only watch to see how bad it can getEdit
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It seemed like this Gundam would be good from the prologue. The only thing I remember about the first season is that scene where Sulletta killed that guy for shock value and then when she sperged out during the presentation. My memory of the show is horrible because I perceive it to be a generic modern anime with Gundams.
The only positive to me is the design of the mechs and how they gave it a strong "anime" feel for lack of a better word, but how they even got this show off of the ground in the first place astounds me.
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I wonder what studio thinked about its not gundam at all.
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It feels like they were trying to appeal to a western audience but the execution was so bad they lost their soul.
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it may seem that this thread will be polarizing, and basically end up being nothing but "OLD = GOOD, NEW = BAD"
that is not my intention, although i would like to know everyones preferences. also sorry for the shit placeholder image lol i couldnt find anything better
If you watched a retro anime and a modern remake counterpart, did you notice anything diffrent? do they both have stuff that makes them good or is there a line to draw in the sand? Are there clear diffrences in retro anime (production or otherwise) and modern anime? Does it matter?2 replies (and 2 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
To me modern anime feels like it's a more competent and directed effort at trying to release endorphins in the viewer.
Since I don't appreciate this I prefer older titles that were worse at this, if that was even their goal.
I think funding is a double edge sword, lack of funding means shit graphics but the struggle involved might produce a decent product, While more money might produce something with outstanding visuals but mediocre story. (also having a pillow of money to rely on can make peoole lazy) Also there was a transition from hand drawn to digital, one is more labor intensive but pretty (at times) and the other has ways of making things much easier for the artist (although animators of the hand draw style do have various tricks they use.)
You don't exactly have to pay for dyes and ink pots for digital.
Also, i noticed modern animators using CGI in anime with mixed results.
There is something i cannot stand about modern anime and it's colours' saturation.
In modern anime colours are saturated to the point of insanity, everything is so bright like do i have to have my entire eyes melted?
For me it is mostly the art and animation style. Newer anime can have a great story, even as good as older anime, but the animation just doesn't look as good as it used to.
I understand the cost and time but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of new anime would look heavily dated ten years from now with how the animate the shows today.
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By the way, older anime (in 80s for example) was literally drawed and sketched by people who wrote helluva amount of kanji in school, and its super visible on composition and outlines. Modern one is made by ppl who got little to no experience in kanji and it looks cartoonish.
Is there any database that catalogues what sound effects libraries certain animes used?
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I want to create a fan edit of an anime movie and am trying to replace music in some scenes. Extracting the voices is easy enough these days with AI, but removing the music but keeping the sound effects is a lot more difficult. Especially because no tool to my knowledge has this exact functionality. So my next best bet is to find the sound library that the movie used and recreating the exact effects heard in that scene. I know for a fact that a sound library was likely used for the film due to it being rather low budget.
Is there any site like that? If not, what else could I do?
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you CAN attempt to re-create sounds with a mic and various objects. i wouldn't be shocked if they do SELL sounds used in the production of anime but i can't imagine how to buy them.
https://taira-komori.jpn.org/index.html
took me a hot minute and jewgle translate to find this, seems legit but i dunno.
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You know this thread just like reminded me that some of the official movies used in Gachimuchi Pants Wrestling or Wrestling Series as a whole uploaded to Nico Nico Douga used the same sound effect library as Japanese animation studios.
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8540626
Like the first time I heard this in the Nurse Witch Komugi commercial I couldn't stop laughing for a good few minutes just in pure shock.
The sound affects in most anime are electronc noises which in some cases are the exact same but slowed down or with reverb.
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We should make our own original 22chan sound effect library that we can use in OC.
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then i need a cat and the most expencive mike possible to record lossless hifi audio of a cat's meow
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I got a friend who I watch anime with alot. But I was wanting to read some manga with him too, only issue is that there aren't too many good ways to do that communally. Currently my method is to stream my screen to him and read it out loud, which isn't the best way I feel. Are there any sites made for this, and/or is there a obvious way I'm missing that would be more ideal?
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Consider the book club way, set a reasonable amount of pages, or chapters and a amount of days to read them. like, "let's read up to page 20 of dragon head and then talk about it"
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I like being able to comment on events happening as they happen, though ;-;
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connect your laptop to a projector, or a tv
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This thread will discuss any Lupin-related media before 2000. Currently, I'm watching Lupin's first series, and I like the episodic nature of the show. The episodes stand by themselves and have been consistently interesting. The adult themes of the series are not too much and add to the series. It gives the writers more room to be creative. Overall the series has been very enjoyable, and I'd recommend it. The first two movies and Fareware to Nostradamus are also great content.10 replies (and 8 file replies) omitted. Click here to view. (Bump Limit: 250)
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So what did Miyazaki mean by this? Did he really imply that every Lupin iteration that he did not work on was an impostor? Or is that a misinterpretation
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Did pt. 2 start better than pt.1, or did it end up better?
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It kind of depends on what you mean by "better." Part 1 is undeniably more consistent throughout its entire runtime in terms of overall quality, and Part 2 is a lot more inconsistent; some absolute stinkers can be followed by the best episodes in the show. What Part 2 has going for it is that its good episodes are extremely good.
But it also depends on whether you mean "better" in terms of writing or in terms of quality of animation or direction. As far as well-written goes, there are good episodes all throughout the show. In terms of animation, it's a little harder to explain.
The episodes directed by Miyazaki himself are the most acclaimed episodes of the show from an animation perspective, but they're not the only well-animated episodes in the show and far from the only ones with notable animation. The studio that animated the Miyazaki episodes (Telecom) worked on the movie Castle of Cagliostro and animated 11 episodes of Part 2. For pre-Cagliostro episodes, there are 72, 77, 82, 84, 99, and 105, and for post-Cagliostro episodes, there are 143, 145, 151, 153, and 155.
Besides Episodes 145 and 155, Miyazaki did not have any involvement in the episodes, but Yasuo Otsuka did, who was a legendary animator and a great influence on Miyazaki, not to mention working on the series since Part 1. I find it sad that most people attribute the higher animation quality of those episodes to Miyazaki, because I feel like the Telecom episodes are much more of an accomplishment for Otsuka. He had to work with a bunch of newbie animators who were horrid at their jobs; their work on Episode 72 was apparently so laughably terrible that he had to fire a good chunk of the studio, then animate nearly the entirety of the episode by himself. The rest of the early telecom episodes were about the team trying to find its footing; the best animated out of all of them, I'd say, is probably Episode 99, which happens to be the very first anime to ever be aired in stereo.
After Castle of Cagliostro, the studio's episodes had a significant increase in quality; 143 and after are all really well animated and fun episodes. 143 is one of my personal favorites due to it being storyboarded by Yuzo Aoki, a great animator who has a really unique style (he was the lead animation director on Mystery of Mamo). It's cool to see his storyboards, which normally get adapted in his own style of limited animation to Telecom's high quality standard, leading to one of the most visually detailed and charming episodes of the show from a visual perspective.
But I could go on forever about the show. Part 2: What it lacks in consistency makes up for it in artistic variety. I didn't even talk that much about Yuzo Aoki and his fantastic work on the show or the Oh Pro episodes.
I feel like it also kind of boils down to there being no real proper categorization in official home releases (because it's not standard), and the home video releases were either random episodes or the full chronological set. I feel like it'd be way more useful had they categorized episodes by who worked on them rather than their numbers. A good resource for knowing who worked on what is on this page is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201111180048/http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/lupin-iii-part-2-credits
This guy did a great job.
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Also, my excuses if my post felt a little rambley. I'm a little tired due to it being morning.
